A history of (the lack of) VP - Page 2

ScaryBadAssholes · #1 10-13-2011, 08:12 PM

Just wait for Velious and the REAL VP aka. TOV.

mostbitter · #2 10-09-2011, 06:21 PM

A post crying about how people hit the end of content and are now losing interest so gms better hurry up and push out one more zone so they can max up on that and then end up at the same spot!

If you aren't interested in playing once you cleared everything then there is no point in the staff rushing to give you one last thing. It's likely detrimental to the server since holding out on that one last promise gives people something to come back to. Vp drops your guild comes back plays for a month or two and then cries about Velious.

It's a free server run by people on their own free time. In my opinion to complain about how that suits YOU is selfish. What is it that gives you the right to question this people? What have you personally done to provide them with equal compensation?

I think it's also fair to mention that this whole progression issue you are getting so self righteous about has likely already been tainted due to the blatant use of third party programs embraced by the raiding population of this server. I think that experienced players being the majority of the server further skews it from the classic experience because the people that are playing know just about every thing you would want to know in order to be successful in this game.

In closing your argument is moot, self righteous, and disgraceful.

Shame on you

Bazia · #3 10-09-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mostbitter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a free server run by people on their own free time. In my opinion to complain about how that suits YOU is selfish. What is it that gives you the right to question this people?

In closing your argument is moot, self righteous, and disgraceful.

Shame on you

Bazia · #4 10-09-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogean, Nilbog: We know you don't owe us anything.

Goraxx · #5 10-09-2011, 05:55 PM

Will never see VP

Lazortag · #6 10-09-2011, 06:03 PM

Why is it that if something affects the top two guilds only it gets more attention than something that affects the four guilds that aren't at the top? Why are things like hoop nerfs, VP, and so on being addressed when things like the outrageously long variance aren't even being looked at? I guarantee that the latter issue has had for more of a detrimental impact on the health of the server and the raid scene than intentionally not releasing VP.

I'm not trying to be rude to you Shiftin, my impression is that you also think the variance is too long, but if the raiding guilds can't get together to carve out a compromise that's better than having to track raid mobs through un-classic 96 hour long windows, I doubt any acceptable compromise is going to be reached over VP any time soon.

Mcbard · #7 10-09-2011, 06:23 PM

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I'm not trying to be rude to you Shiftin, my impression is that you also think the variance is too long, but if the raiding guilds can't get together to carve out a compromise that's better than having to track raid mobs through un-classic 96 hour long windows, I doubt any acceptable compromise is going to be reached over VP any time soon.

What are you talking about exactly? This was worked out between TMO and TR a month ago.

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Rogean told us privately the day of the patch to come to an agreement regarding VP. Both sides made concessions and we presented a plan for a modified, time-limited rotation to rogean that same weekend. It was basically instantly rejected and we were told Nilbog wanted to talk to us about it. The compromise gave ZERO weight to the fact that TR had a raid force capable of probably clearing VP months before anyone else even killed Trakanon. As much as this pissed off my own guild, who understandably felt we should have first crack at the zone since we were fully keyed first, we thought getting any sort of plan out there in hopes of the zone opening was better than nothing.

Lazortag · #8 10-09-2011, 06:24 PM

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What are you talking about exactly? This was worked out between TMO and TR a month ago.

Note I said "acceptable" compromise.

Mcbard · #9 10-09-2011, 06:30 PM

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Note I said "acceptable" compromise.

Well that's half the reason Shiftin is posting this I think. All we want to know is what they want us to do.

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That was over 4 weeks ago. PMs to both senior staff have gone unanswered since then.

The only thing we were told is that the agreement we reached didn't promote competition so it wouldn't work. Since then nothing has been worked on from what we (the members) are told. That was weeks ago.

Harrison · #10 10-09-2011, 06:29 PM

I hope VP is never released so the top guilds learn their lesson about being pieces of shit.