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Old 09-20-2011, 09:04 AM
XiakenjaTZ XiakenjaTZ is offline
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especially if pvp is active on level 1s and no shared banks this will really put a hurt on trades.

edit: if I had to guess I would think 99% of trades would be message board based and that kind of sucks.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:19 AM
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especially if pvp is active on level 1s and no shared banks this will really put a hurt on trades.

edit: if I had to guess I would think 99% of trades would be message board based and that kind of sucks.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:02 AM
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especially if pvp is active on level 1s and no shared banks this will really put a hurt on trades.

edit: if I had to guess I would think 99% of trades would be message board based and that kind of sucks.
True. But you could pacify the Kelethin, Freeport, Neriak etc. bank areas (personally I think you should be safe in the whole town area, but I guess the hardcore PvPers want to gank people within towns as well). People could trade in these areas.

@Rushmore: How did they handle this problem on the Altergate custom box? This seems to be the most appealing item loot rule to me and a few others.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:25 AM
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True. But you could pacify the Kelethin, Freeport, Neriak etc. bank areas (personally I think you should be safe in the whole town area, but I guess the hardcore PvPers want to gank people within towns as well). People could trade in these areas.

@Rushmore: How did they handle this problem on the Altergate custom box? This seems to be the most appealing item loot rule to me and a few others.
Rogean has already stated Level 1's in cities are safe to PVP. So trading in cities on level 1 mules is safe bros. Level 1's outside the city are open to PVP!
YES PVP is open starting at level 1.

Prahadigm: On Altergate if you died anything un-equipped that wasn't no drop was up for grabs. Most times you at least got something like a pumice which was cool. It was team base though. One time someone on the good side had camped the best weapon in the game on a shaman and forgot to bank it. He went out pvping and got ganked. The guy looted his sword and equipped it right away. =D

Again, I am against any form of pvp loot but the dev's are leaning towards it pretty hard pals. This is the best compromise. I would like to see some system implemented where you can buy your way to making an item no drop (maybe a ton of pp) or something protected like 2 slots like Lasher said. An Sk will 2H all the time where as a War is going to switch between 2h and 1h's.

Or even a manastone .... EEK!
Guess you will have to equip the manastone in the primary hand!?!?

I think there are some good compromises for every situation. We just need to be vocal and work together pals to work them out.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:35 AM
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Not to sound like a blueberry but i could extend with only being able to loot jewlery, (ears, neck, face, rings) Where 80% of all the hp/resistgear is at. And maby add bracers, waist, back + shoulder along aswell =)

So "Armor" + weps go safe.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:15 AM
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VZTZ never worked out well. Item loot is going to help with most of the people who make level range specific twinks decked out in gear. Worse, players will just be running around in full resist gear when they get it. Good luck fighting any of these guys for planar/dragon spawns once they get their gear advantage. If you fix stupid things like whirl and root landing on 150magic resist 50% of the time there wont be as much complaining about item loot.

Thx.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:22 AM
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Yeah. The more I think about it the more I think that the whole loot 1 non equipped item is a bad solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

Normal item loot. If in 8 months its a problem it can be re evaluated.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:32 AM
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Yeah. The more I think about it the more I think that the whole loot 1 non equipped item is a bad solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

Normal item loot. If in 8 months its a problem it can be re evaluated.
I agree. Any form of item loot will hurt the population in the long run.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:28 AM
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I had to use a mana stone in my off hand. Cry more.

You guys will be singing a different tune when you get out numbered/poopsocked and beat to dragon haste/bd/diamond gear.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:34 AM
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How about a list of patch notes going into the pvp server about resists before we make any kind of educated decisions?

There's tons of player hit/resist/to hit shit messed up in that base code if I remember reading right. What has been changed/fixed?
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