Regarding item loot.

[Yukahwa]

Vztz servers never ran into twinks because they didn't last long enough. This server has the potential to be actually good..and that means it can sustain item loot. A warrior isn't going to win any pvp encounters vs casters while wearing crafted that he couldn't win wearing bronze. The naked pvp experience is a dumb argument.

We are all here because we like ever quest not typical panzy weak mmos. Real pvp with loot will be a good challenge for bluebies who have beat eq already. Without item loot pvp is just pve plus some more random interruptions to pve. No benefits..just inconvenience.

[Billbike]

Originally Posted by Yukahwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vztz servers never ran into twinks because they didn't last long enough. This server has the potential to be actually good..and that means it can sustain item loot. A warrior isn't going to win any pvp encounters vs casters while wearing crafted that he couldn't win wearing bronze. The naked pvp experience is a dumb argument.

We are all here because we like ever quest not typical panzy weak mmos. Real pvp with loot will be a good challenge for bluebies who have beat eq already. Without item loot pvp is just pve plus some more random deaths. No benefits..just inconvenience.

The VZTZ servers lasted quite a long time, and remember that exp was faster also. Plenty of time for twinks to evolve, but they didn't. Why? Because it was classic.

Tell me Yukakwa, what class and what gear would you say was an unkillable twink during classic?

I don't think you have ever played pvp. If you had, you would know where itemloot leads.

[XiakenjaTZ]

I like no item loot best....

Best other option is loot anything not equipped including stuff in bags.

It would suck to lose say a manastone or something though. And I would not be carrying around situational resist gear.

[Amuk]

Crafted vs Bronze you're clearly a high end player.

Most melee will wear resist gear not to be locked down, such as mithril arms/legs, tranix crown if theyre lucky - thatd be a fun one to lose, golden wolfseye bracers, etc etc - none of said items will stop a shaman from one shotting the rogue with ebolt, or at least ebolt+ maybe a VOS/and or pet dmg.

Most oldworld resist gear will help your MR and make you mobile, which makes you viable. A spell casters can be basically naked and still rape your shit up. In grp pvp with healers and shit it may make sense to wear your gear, but for the other 80% of the time it'll be naked caster gank squad.

[greatdane]

Yeah, well, itemloot causes retarded things like that to happen.

[XiakenjaTZ]

I hate bagging too. What i mean though is allow looting from bags, just not stuff equipped.

But once again, NO ITEM LOOT IS BEST.

[Vile]

If they gonna put in item loot let us open the bags.

Again, after that its either item loot or no item.. no crazy rules.

[Mardur]

From IRC:

1 unequipped item lootable (from bags etc).
Level 1 chars pvp exempt within cities only (for trade).

[greatdane]

It's still gonna suck for melees because you can't really PvE in resist gear, but it's better than real itemloot if there apparently has to be some form of itemloot at all. Don't think it's a good idea, but it isn't unplayable either.

Thoughts on shared bank since trading with your main char will be pretty much impossible?

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's still gonna suck for melees because you can't really PvE in resist gear, but it's better than real itemloot if there apparently has to be some form of itemloot at all. Don't think it's a good idea, but it isn't unplayable either.

Thoughts on shared bank since trading will be so annoying when it can only really be done on level 1s in cities?

yeah its just a good compromise for both parties though.