Poll item looting or no?

[greatdane]

1 item that is unequipped. So essentially you can go through there bags and loot something. That way there is risk vrs reward but you can't loot there precious pixel.

If there has to be itemloot, that seems like a reasonable compromise. It'll retain the element of tangible reward for PvP without completely wrecking gameplay by affecting what people wear. I'm not against losing something when dying in PvP, but I don't see what we gain by basically further widening the gap between melee and caster to the point where melee becomes virtually unplayable. The really interesting PvP happens over raids and other high-end content, and that's where people will have valuable stuff in their bags. It also avoids retarded shit like PvPing naked or bagging your stuff to circumvent itemloot in the first place.

[zixxer]

I don't get it, why do people always say everyone will run around naked and avoid pvp if it's item loot? I played on a item loot server for like 4 years, I always wore gear, and I constantly went out looking for pvp.

And if someone does get something good from you, what do you think they're going to do with it, put it in their bank and admire it? No, they're going to equip it on one of their characters. And guess what you may end up killing said character someday and getting it back.

[Doors]

I don't care if item loot goes in but it's lame because casters can run around naked PKing melees easily. Melees do not have this advantage gearless.

[greatdane]

@nilbog

But do you at least acknowledge all the enormous problems that come into the picture with itemloot? It's like nobody who's pro-itemloot even mentions them. You're welcome to believe that itemloot is worthwhile despite these problems, but it's a little strange how those who argue in favor of itemloot won't even discuss what it does to gameplay.

What's your goal with this server, anyway? It's not a rhetorical question, I just think it would help these discussions if we knew what you aim to provide. I assumed it was to provide classic Everquest with the PvP that made VZTZ popular, both for those who miss PvP and as a way to let players regulate themselves which they can't do on blue99. Itemloot doesn't factor into either of those.

I know you don't make decisions based on polls, but I'm sure you at least notice what the majority wants. If you completely disregard everything that gets discussed in this entire forum, you should just let us know so we can stop bothering.

[Pudge]

it will make carrying items to swap non-existent. i like my utility itemz. manastones will be ganked, etc..

unless you make only BAGS lootable.. then ppl could use entire inventory slots (instead of carrying around 8 bags, carry 7 and leave an open slot for your most uber items)

[Titanuk]

big smoker and pudge gunna rule red99

[Pudge]

lol you still remember smoker? he'll be there once it gets going

[Titanuk]

ill be a wizzy

[Spud]

Since i'm one of those guys who played on RZ 11 years ago, I'd like to see item loot. I want the chance to be able to loot an FBSS off some poor guy, I want to take my melees on the pilgrimage to Lower Guk to get some bad ass NO DROP shin armor like I remember doing in the old days.

I haven't played on any of the emu PVP servers so I'll admit I have no idea what it takes to make a good emu PVP server. I understand what you guys are saying how item loot unbalances PvP against melees, could scare away potential blues etc. EverQuest PvP was by no means perfect on live servers (lol), I'm sure there are many ways PvP could be improved, so I'm open to whatever system we end up going with. However, I would like to see some sort of item loot in place because it's just fun. Who gives a shit if you loose some platinum. You kill and NPC you loot something, you kill a PC you should loot something!

Let's make a compromise since it was different on all the classic pvp servers, I don't see why we can't design our own item loot system similar to the Altergate method that Rushmore suggested. Maybe find away so people's manastones will be safe like Pudge suggested.

[Humerox]

Nilbog voted for item loot...sooooooo....

help the melees out a bit tho wit the unequipped thing...

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