Raiding on P1999

[anthony210]

First, my opinion does not represent all of Divinity nor is this thread about Divinity.

Second, it says something about our community if 2 live progression servers can come to a raid agreement between their raiding guilds. But this server, one that is half the size in population and has fewer guilds cannot come to an agreement.

Also, I was not saying that a rotation is the only solution. If someone has a better idea that promotes fairness please let it be heard.

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by anthony210 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Second, it says something about our community if 2 live progression servers can come to a raid agreement between their raiding guilds. But this server, one that is half the size in population and has fewer guilds cannot come to an agreement.

I can't help but assume that a lot of that comes from the fact that this server is free - therefore, a lot of unemployed people who don't give a shit.

I still don't know why variance isn't removed, and spawn rate increased. The fact is, there's many, many more people on P99 who are raid level and raid-capable than "back in the day", content comes out much slower here, combined with the "no cost to play" - it's just a much much different environment. The real solution is more frequent spawning.

[yaaaflow]

Haha wasn't a shot at divinity (I think), the joke is that there actually was a rotation on p99 for a short time and it ended the exact day divinity was to be given their first shot at CT.

[Ennoia]

Originally Posted by anthony210 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know its been discussed before but I thought maybe we can have a rational discussion on a solution to the raid drama we have on P99.

I personally support a rotation being set up, I know not all live servers had it but the one I was on did and it worked well. Not to mention that even live progression servers both have rotations set up, if they can do it on a live server with double our population and more raid capable guilds than I don't see why we cant find a reasonable way to set one up here.

Having said that, I don't deny that their might be other solutions. Post you're idea and/or thoughts on the subject here.

The high end guild leaders are too immature to try a rotation...they're greedy an want all the loot from a 12 year old game for themselves. I swear to God there's some behind the scenes RMT going on with them.

[Xanthias]

Here's an idea... that gives the race feel etc....

Basically once a mob spawns guilds have a two hour window to engage, if after that time, mob is free game.

Example 1:
Trak spawns at 0:00 - Guild 1 is on the clock.
at 1:00 they kill Trak
Guild 2 is now on the clock for next spawn.

Example 2:
VS spawns at 0:00 - Guild 2 is on the clock
at 2:00 they haven't killed, Guild 1 can come in and claim it (under current ROE).
Guild 3 is on the clock.

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by Xanthias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's an idea... that gives the race feel etc....

Basically once a mob spawns guilds have a two hour window to engage, if after that time, mob is free game.

Example 1:
Trak spawns at 0:00 - Guild 1 is on the clock.
at 1:00 they kill Trak
Guild 2 is now on the clock for next spawn.

Example 2:
VS spawns at 0:00 - Guild 2 is on the clock
at 2:00 they haven't killed, Guild 1 can come in and claim it (under current ROE).
Guild 3 is on the clock.

I don't see how that's any different than a rotation. Most mobs here don't last longer than like 30 minutes, if that. It might slow down on the poopsocking a little bit, but unlikely.

[Xanthias]

Originally Posted by Bruman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see how that's any different than a rotation. Most mobs here don't last longer than like 30 minutes, if that. It might slow down on the poopsocking a little bit, but unlikely.

Exactly, I was more trying to get rid of the bitching and moaning about how they trained us, we had aggro and they stole it, blah blah.

[anthony210]

Well, a rotation fixes all the problems. The only downside is we lose the "competition" which is only really important to 1 maybe 2 guilds on the server.

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by anthony210 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, a rotation fixes all the problems. The only downside is we lose the "competition" which is only really important to 1 maybe 2 guilds on the server.

I still lawl at the concept of "competition" on this server. The only true challenge is with yourself and your guild, on being able to kill the mob. Other guilds have no place in real competition. Hence why instancing was born - although you do lose so much other good stuff with instancing.

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by Xanthias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly, I was more trying to get rid of the bitching and moaning about how they trained us, we had aggro and they stole it, blah blah.

Ah gotcha - most rotations have some sort of clause as well, like, you get an hour or whatever to down your mob, or it's FFA.