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Old 09-10-2011, 03:17 PM
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you guys were just terrible at your classes...during velious is when sk paladins bards rangers really shined. granted "shined" doesnt mean they were better than pure melees or casters

and to the assclown who said sk's were good with tantors and HT.. holy shit, did tantors exist in live? kunark? o wait that was velious.
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:30 PM
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Paladins very good, oldworld/classic when people don't have resists you can root/blind/stun and still have clutch LOH/backup heals. Later in Kunark when people have resist gear you'll have celestial elixir or w/e at 60 and a decent 2hnder/da/Loh, all around very good class at any point in the game.
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Old 09-10-2011, 05:53 PM
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Fist is right about hybrid mana on vztz and I heard it is client side so unless dev do something like increase hyrid mana requirement on all spelss by like 15% I wouldnt be surprised to see it on r99. A well geared paladin does well in big fights since they can last for a while. Alfrid on tz seemed to do well but yeah they arent great finishers like sk
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Old 09-11-2011, 11:23 AM
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Hybrids are alright, they just lack the raw endgame power of pure melees. If you're a casual player without a gang of friends always around you, hybrid is pretty much the only way to play melee PvP. You'll be somewhat less dependent on top-end gear than warriors, and you'll be less crippled by high resists than most casters are since your damage comes from melee.

You also get a lot of useful utility. Tracking is a godsend in PvP, as is SoW and the ability to snare/root (though it'll mainly be for pets at higher levels when people have resists), and a shadowknight's pet is useful for interrupting non-channeling classes who try to pumice, or for immediately telling you where your attacker is if he tries to snipe you from a hiding place or shadowstepped away. Paladins have pretty reasonable buffs, including magic resist, and root/stuns are amazing on low-resist targets. The ability to heal in some way, which all hybrids have, is absolutely crucial if you solo PvP, because a warrior or rogue who's down to half HP is fucked if he doesn't have a healer with him. You don't want to have to sit on your ass for fifteen minutes to recover from a fight.

Casters don't get any kind of raw survivability until Velious raid gear. A wizard in resist gear has like 1200 HP at level 60, and if you swing for 100-200ish, he's gonna crumble pretty fast. You won't mutilate people in three seconds with some ridiculous discipline like pure melees, but you'll have options more options than "run up and hit him". Don't underestimate the ability to root a pet, run around a corner and greater-heal yourself, or repeatedly lifetap the druid who's trying to kite you with winged death. You're still the caster's bitch if you get caught at max range in Dreadlands, but you're much harder to put at an insurmountable disadvantage than a pure melee is in that situation.

Paladins aren't great, and they'll have a lot of trouble actually killing people, but they're also really hard to take down and are pretty self-sufficient if you run around solo without wanting to actually hunt people. I wouldn't recommend it to someone who's looking for a well-rounded casual PvP class or a group PvP powerhouse, but all hybrids are decent generalists for people who don't want to limit themselves to glass cannons, group-only classes, or classes that can only really fight in dungeons. If the server turns out to have XP loss, the ability to 90% rez yourself will be huge as well (if that's possible with a PvP death, anyway).
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Old 09-11-2011, 12:51 PM
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pals are good in pvp (not great), lots of stun spells, blind, root and nice weapon arsenal starting with kunark
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Old 09-11-2011, 03:12 PM
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all you need is full resist gear, epic, all loot from phara dar, air 40% haste belt and you will be very good at healing sniperfire while he circles around you.
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:30 PM
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except u wont because celestial elixir is a velious spell
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:31 PM
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Kevris sounds like a solo player, if you're one Paladin is a pretty poor choice.
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:31 PM
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Was pretty sure paladins got a dot heal at 60 which was very mana efficient, is my memory that off haha could be.
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:44 PM
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Was pretty sure paladins got a dot heal at 60 which was very mana efficient, is my memory that off haha could be.
We did, and it also had an incredibly low cast time. That was not until Vellious though, around the same time the first paladin group heals were introduced, if I remember right.
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