Questioning GM Decisions

[Roanoke]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If anything, this thread turned out to be a great reason to get more moderators.. just to delete rant posts from server chat and ban people who can't distinguish between the two.

Thanks for showing me that, Hasbinbad and trolls.

Thank you for cleaning this thread up.

To the people who are playing the "freedom of speech" card. The same thing goes for how you should deal with your opinion about GM decisions.

WE do not pay to play here. WE do not make final decisions. WE are not playing democracy here. The fact that the forums and server are up should be more than enough to keep people respectful of the hard work the Devs put in FOR FREE.

Forums and the P1999 server have rules. If Nilbog and Rogean decided one day that "only players who have a 45+ female troll Shadowknights may post on the forums" then so be it, they pay the bills, they make the final decisions.

And don't even start with "but I donated!" I donate to charity all the time, do I expect to be able to walk down to the nearest homeless shelter and boss people around because I've donated my time there before? No. The world doesn't work that way and neither does P99.

GM=GAME MASTER

Think about it.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thread cleaned.

Those of you you were suspended, reasons displayed. Those whose comments were deleted, do not do it again.

1. Warning
2. Suspension
3. Ban

Depending on what you say, it is possible to skip directly past 1 and be suspended or banned. Moderator discretion.

Glad to see this happen and the thread not get moved to RnF.

+1

[nalkin]

The only thing detrimental to the server is how the staff messed up on the punishments they gave to the cheaters. They messed up so bad that people were extremely vocal... that is what happens when people become outraged. If they fix their mistake then people won't be going crazy about it like they are. If I was new to the server I would like to know the opinion of the populous, and how things are going down.

For instance, you can get a harsher punishment for saying something unfavorable in this thread than you can for using MQ2 for the past 2 years:

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thread cleaned.

Those of you you were suspended, reasons displayed. Those whose comments were deleted, do not do it again.

1. Warning
2. Suspension
3. Ban

Depending on what you say, it is possible to skip directly past 1 and be suspended or banned. Moderator discretion.

[Vermicelli]

As badly as people who used Macroquest and ShowEQ "ruined" the server, junkheads who can't seem to stop stirring up drama (in the server general forum and over /ooc, no less) have been ruining it for me far harder for far longer. Suspend and plat-strip those drama llama accounts imo

Thanks to all the trolls who have posted in this thread, framing the useful discourse with all of your witch-hunt, endlessly repeated bullshit.

[Stinkum]

Originally Posted by Vermicelli [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As badly as people who used Macroquest and ShowEQ "ruined" the server, junkheads who can't seem to stop stirring up drama (in the server general forum and over /ooc, no less) have been ruining it for me far harder for far longer. Suspend and plat-strip those drama llama accounts imo

Thanks to all the trolls who have posted in this thread, framing the useful discourse with all of your witch-hunt, endlessly repeated bullshit.

1. You yourself are advocating a witch-hunt in your post.
2. The above is an exact copy-paste of the same post you've made several times in several threads. Way to "endlessly repeat" your own "bullshit."
3. Learn to use the ignore function on the forum or don't visit R&F if you don't like it. I didn't realize anyone was twisting your elbow, forcing you to click on R&F every single day.

[Demetrium]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. You yourself are advocating a witch-hunt in your post.
2. The above is an exact copy-paste of the same post you've made several times in several threads. Way to "endlessly repeat" your own "bullshit."
3. Learn to use the ignore function on the forum or don't visit R&F if you don't like it. I didn't realize anyone was twisting your elbow, forcing you to click on R&F every single day.

How do I thumbs up a post?

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. You yourself are advocating a witch-hunt in your post.
2. The above is an exact copy-paste of the same post you've made several times in several threads. Way to "endlessly repeat" your own "bullshit."
2. Learn to use the ignore function on the forum or don't visit R&F if you don't like it. I didn't realize anyone was twisting your elbow, forcing you to click on R&F every single day.
4. Literally nobody except Hasbinbad agrees with your opinion.

he's not disagreeing with me, my points or the validity of my argument. In fact I think he may even agree with me on some key points. instead he's disagreeing with the way that it's being voiced.

Yes, that above post is basically a Tamiah on the opposing side. Little thought behind a bullshit spewing attempt that hopes to prove hasbin right but only gets caught beneath the wheels.

Hasbin, let me propose to you a question that may require a bit of critical thinking on your part. Here goes...

If Nilbog/Rogean/Chica and the other members of the staff agreed with you, do you not think everything I've posted here would have been deleted by now?

You have a point, but only under certain circumstances. Clearly there are legitimate exceptions. the mere fact that my posts aren't being deleted sort of proves that

[Vermicelli]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. You yourself are advocating a witch-hunt in your post.
2. The above is an exact copy-paste of the same post you've made several times in several threads. Way to "endlessly repeat" your own "bullshit."
3. Learn to use the ignore function on the forum or don't visit R&F if you don't like it. I didn't realize anyone was twisting your elbow, forcing you to click on R&F every single day.

Oh, so you have seen my other appeals asking people stop posting trash in the general forum. Which is the forum we are posting in now, if you hadn't noticed. So many other posters seem to blur the lines between Rants n Flames and general chat that it makes my head spin violently and lighting shoot out of my ears. I don't want to have to sift thru shitpile posts just to read legitimate server threads. There is a time and place for things, and the general forum is not a place for those things.

More to the matter at hand! Reposting these shitpile threads in general chat will not change the GMs' and developers' minds regarding decisions that have already been made. That poop belongs in rants and flames.

inb4 trollolol posts that take what I say out of context and further shit up the forum for your own entertainment.

[druziil]

i posted this in another thread a few days ago

Originally Posted by druziil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RnF has not been used the way it was ment to be in the last several weeks. People are using it as a soapbox and exploiting the ruleless nature of it to inflame the community over grossley exaggerated issues regarding GM/Staff decisions. If the posted rules about not questioning GM/Staff desicions were enforced more appropriately I could get back to telling people that TMO is full of bad players and that tiggles ia fat.

There is a place for legitimate discussions regarding server issues. It's called server chat. Make valid points in a reasonable way and good things happen.

Having a debate over a decision that was made and how you feel about it would be a legitimate post. If you feel it was a bad decision and you can voice that opinion in a reasonable way then that is a post you can make. All this bullshit swirling around WHY that decision was made the way it was is the questioning part that gets us absolutely no where.

Am i happy with how things went down the last 2 weeks? No. Would i like things to be different (better)? Yes. Can i get over it and keep playing? Sure. The real truth of the matter is that while I feel the cheaters caught where not adequately dealt with it really doesn't affect me as much as it would seem. A lot of my time spent grouping and whatnot with guild mates never directly encountered TR or TMO. It is only on those 1 or 2 hour raid days that this happens and to be frank their play-style/attitude is more of an issue then the fact that a dozen or so were using cheats.

And as far as the Dev abuse scandal, good enough for the tabloids but not the 11 o'clock news. If you believe what has been accused then it still only affects me minimally, and i'm not sure i 100% believe what has been accused.