More proof that server is going to hell

[nalkin]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because obviously his contributions are valued, but he wants to play. If he's removed from Dev duty, the whole server loses out on his work and you pile more onto the plates of other Devs. But from everything I can tell, his status as guildleader is completely overblown. He was instrumental in the forming of IB but if you speak to any TR member about him, he never leads raids and his attendance is pretty low. A lot of members don't even know him. He's basically an honorary officer -- he's not the lead man like Bumamgar was in WI.

It doesn't matter how much he plays. Personally I don't think a developer should be playing at all. It has to much potential to corrupt, you either do one or the other. There is a reason if you play D&D you don't play DM and a player.

Regardless of what Xzerion's real intentions were, if he didn't play the game (especially in the lead guild) then none of this speculation would have happened at all, because you would know his intentions were only to develop.

I would rather have a slower release of content then a chance that the server is corrupted by people who have power and who play the game.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by nalkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn't matter how much he plays. Personally I don't think a developer should be playing at all. It has to much potential to corrupt, you either do one or the other. There is a reason if you play D&D you don't play DM and a player.

Regardless of what Xzerion's real intentions were, if he didn't play the game (especially in the lead guild) then none of this speculation would have happened at all, because you would know his intentions were only to develop.

I would rather have a slower release of content then a chance that the server is corrupted by people who have power and who play the game.

Right, but it's not up to you and that's not really a reasonable request. Developing is a ton of work, and Xzerion is proven aid. The development team obviously feels they need his help, and that's all that matters.

The potential for corruption is mostly paranoia. He doesn't have access to GM ability or the database, and even his developer abilities are abridged. He's probably monitored more closely than anyone on P99. There's no real risk, which is why all the claptrap about Xz is largely swept aside by Nilbog and Rogean. They KNOW he's not using his position to his advantage, because they've made it so he can't.

[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right, but it's not up to you and that's not really a reasonable request. Developing is a ton of work, and Xzerion is proven aid. The development team obviously feels they need his help, and that's all that matters.

The potential for corruption is mostly paranoia. He doesn't have access to GM ability or the database, and even his developer abilities are abridged. He's probably monitored more closely than anyone on P99. There's no real risk, which is why all the claptrap about Xz is largely swept aside by Nilbog and Rogean. They KNOW he's not using his position to his advantage, because they've made it so he can't.

You are incorrect, but stating this as fact. You should stop. 250 status on the development server was all that was necessary to gather that information. You can do this by using certain commands. Coincidentally. those commands were used, and in sufficient volume to get that information. No others, none of benefit to any development, none in any capacity that was not of direct interest to raiding. With 250 status, you can get hard values for everything, except the pathing. Coincidentally, the clone was touted as an exact copy, minus the pathing. Those are the facts.

[yaaaflow]

Anyone who can read that log and not be glad that Uthgaard is gone... I just don't get. This is and always has been Nilbog's project, and without his development work and Rogean's hosting this server would be roughly as successful as the dozen other attempts at remaking classic EQ. Uthgaard on the other hand just alienates the playerbase and powertrips at every possible opportunity. Good developer, terrible GM.

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by yaaaflow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone who can read that log and not be glad that Uthgaard is gone... I just don't get. This is and always has been Nilbog's project, and without his development work and Rogean's hosting this server would be roughly as successful as the dozen other attempts at remaking classic EQ. Uthgaard on the other hand just alienates the playerbase and powertrips at every possible opportunity. Good developer, terrible GM.

This person was in IB and also was in TR, btw. I believe his name is Magicflow a magician in TR. More bias.

[yaaaflow]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This person was in IB and also was in TR, btw. I believe his name is Magicflow a magician in TR. More bias.

True story, I've never tried to hide my identity on here anyone could find that out with a 2 minute look at my post history. I've got nothing to hide bro, can you say the same?

[Messianic]

1) Shutting down RNF will be negative to the server's health.

If there isn't a place for people to be frank and let out all their garbage, it will be let out everywhere else. Mods can just barely control things as it is - eventually they'll get overrun by bullcrap. RnF threads do no harm to the server at all which wouldn't have happened anyway - I don't see the difference between massive, supposedly detrimental garbage being posted here and it being posted anywhere else, except that moderators will have a crapton more work to do.

2) Cyrano claimed that the only thing that matters is development of the server. This is absolutely wrong.

Development will be of limited value if hacking persists or gets worse. Unless hacking is dealt with (with an iron hand, and hopefully those who are behind it are smart enough to keep up with the hackers), it will be enough of a drag on the server to cause substantial harm, regardless how well the server is developed.

While i'm disappointed with the punishment rendered during the most recent hacker bust, I hope Rogean is true to his word (I've found he is) in having no mercy for anyone caught in the future.


Uthgaard never alienated the player base. He alienated a lot of people compared to others, but even that population was mostly a very tiny collection of scumbags that needed it. I'm sure he erred a couple times, but nearly every single one of his hardass moves I've agreed with.

[Daldolma]

It's not that his contributions are "so great". It's just that they're contributions. I don't know anything about developing, but I'd imagine that when you find a capable Dev who has proven himself with years of work, you don't want to lose him as a Dev -- even if he isn't nearly as active as Uthgaard was.

And with regards to VP, I don't think there's any question that Xz was focusing on developing areas that interest him. But I don't think that's necessarily unreasonable.

[Spud]

Originally Posted by Jameshpulse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://pastebin.com/ZeEmdGYH


read it fast

It took me about 5 min to read do I win a prize?

88.[23:50] <nilbog> you can talk to rogean about players. i like npcs. you know this. i don't even like people.

Sig worthy haha

[Daldolma]

It's really as simple as this: Xzerion doesn't have the ability to do what he's being accused of. He didn't have access to the DB, which would be the only way to recreate VP as it is on P99. At most, if you actually believe Xzerion was doing what he did in VP for TR info, he got them the same information that Nilbog had already posted on the P99 forums. This was confirmed by both Nilbog and Rogean, who say he did nothing wrong. It's silly to believe Nilbog and Rogean are in on some kind of conspiracy to recreate test servers for TR.