Item Stacking Issue, Exploit

[derek]

Originally Posted by Scrooge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't get how this so called "exploit" was even possible, as any item that was attempted to be sold more than once would say something like "Item is misplaced"...or am I the only one who was getting that?

Im with scrooge on this one but somehow i guess i was some uber exploiter and got banned lol. Well hopefully later tonight ill get it removed. oh well

Foha

PS: Unbanned Ty rogean

[BarackObooma]

Originally Posted by Scrooge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't get how this so called "exploit" was even possible, as any item that was attempted to be sold more than once would say something like "Item is misplaced"...or am I the only one who was getting that?

I stumbled on the exploit by accident, petitioned and put in an detailed message in the exploit section and Rogean responded right away and the server was taken down within 10 minutes. Props to Rogean and crew for that.

It worked like this, if a player sold a stackable item (lets say a rune/word/gem/bonechip) to a vendor that didn't normally stock that item, it would then list the item with a quantity of - (what we would normally think of as unlimited). It wasn't really unlimited of course and some necros probably wet their pants the first time they saw a vendor with "unlimited" bone chips. If someone bought such an item, it would give them the item(s) but would not take your money. The person could then resell the item back to the vendor and keep buying it back for no money and resell it until they were rich, like Mr. Howell on Gilligan's Island.

Unscrupulous people who caught on would then take a high cost item (like a ruby), sell it to a mechant for 130pp (or whatever they vendor for), buy it back for free, resell it to the vendor and rinse and repeat until the economy collapses.

I remember in WOW beta when we had item and gold wipes. It wasn't fun. I didn't want that to happen here.

I also figured that the people doing it were buying irreplaceable items (like manastones, rubicite bps, etc.) which no longer drop. If they got banned (and you knew they would), the items would disappear and the supply would become so low that the late comers like myself (I started about a month ago) would never be able to afford a manastone or other item.

What a mess for Rogean and them to have to undo trades and such. I hope too much damage wasn't done.

I'd like to think I played a small part in saving the economy of the server (ironic huh) and help rid it of some cheaters.

The other side effect was Rogean made me change my name so I am no longer BarackObooma but Thunderstruck. This also made my many corpses across Norrath unrezzable doh!

[Eastwood]

See? Obooma isnt that bad!

Thanks Thundastruck!

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by BarackObooma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I stumbled on the exploit by accident, petitioned and put in an detailed message in the exploit section and Rogean responded right away and the server was taken down within 10 minutes. Props to Rogean and crew for that.

It worked like this, if a player sold a stackable item (lets say a rune/word/gem/bonechip) to a vendor that didn't normally stock that item, it would then list the item with a quantity of - (what we would normally think of as unlimited). It wasn't really unlimited of course and some necros probably wet their pants the first time they saw a vendor with "unlimited" bone chips. If someone bought such an item, it would give them the item(s) but would not take your money. The person could then resell the item back to the vendor and keep buying it back for no money and resell it until they were rich, like Mr. Howell on Gilligan's Island.

Unscrupulous people who caught on would then take a high cost item (like a ruby), sell it to a mechant for 130pp (or whatever they vendor for), buy it back for free, resell it to the vendor and rinse and repeat until the economy collapses.

I remember in WOW beta when we had item and gold wipes. It wasn't fun. I didn't want that to happen here.

I also figured that the people doing it were buying irreplaceable items (like manastones, rubicite bps, etc.) which no longer drop. If they got banned (and you knew they would), the items would disappear and the supply would become so low that the late comers like myself (I started about a month ago) would never be able to afford a manastone or other item.

What a mess for Rogean and them to have to undo trades and such. I hope too much damage wasn't done.

I'd like to think I played a small part in saving the economy of the server (ironic huh) and help rid it of some cheaters.

The other side effect was Rogean made me change my name so I am no longer BarackObooma but Thunderstruck. This also made my many corpses across Norrath unrezzable doh!

Good job man! The server thanks you and anyone else who petitioned right away. ( Sorry about the no-rez sideeffect of the name change though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

[gloam]

Good job getting rid of cheaters. I still think that all the talk about ruined economies is a bit overly dramatic, as pretty much every game has currency flow that is outside the norm, and pretty much every game, the economy adjusts. IMO, having a reputation of rampant hacking/cheating/exploiting does much more to ruin servers than abnormal inflow of coin, but its clear these types are going to be dealt with so shouldnt have any worries about a bad rep.

[Lyssia]

scrooge i think the exploit opened after the server patch yesterday. And im guessing thats why everyone and their motbher was wanting to buy a diamond in the /auc channel after server came back up

[Pikle]

Love FINAWIN! He is god! (+1)

[Kennebec]

Gratz to the Dev team IMHO for the way this is handled. I think the GM's show a lot of integrity.

[Bentheb]

Question for the GM'S.
Don't even know if its doable but will any of the bogus plat be tracked down, and if so are there rollback inc?

would hate to loose hell lvl exp cause i bought or sold something lol.

not bitching about it either way but just wondering.

[Rogean]

We already reversed some trades that were done with exploited platinum, but we only did this to the larger transactions.