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Old 10-14-2025, 12:01 AM
Waffles_McGregor Waffles_McGregor is offline
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My Iksar Necro lived in HS basement from 54-60. I am Scowling to the OT outpost. However, when I use the Lich line of spells I go to Apprehensive and happily vendor all my lazy Droga loot and bank with the Outpost. No need for FD at the wall to bank nor an invis needed to stroll around.
Just an update, something is not smelling right here. I did go in tonight and kill, I'm still not bottomed out with Venril Sathir and I am dubious, so relying on this information was sub-optimal. At the end of the day I'm committed now, but this did throw me off with my decision making. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So for those following up on this and wondering, no, max scowls for an Iksar necromancer is NOT apprehensive. At best its dubious, and potentially threatening at worst. I'll update when I eventually bottom out because I'm stuck at this point.


I wish I could edit my mid-thread response on this subject as it sort've carries forward inaccurate information which I know is now false after verifying. Is there any way to delte/edit an old message? Edit button seems to be gone.
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Old 10-14-2025, 06:33 AM
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Just an update, something is not smelling right here. I did go in tonight and kill, I'm still not bottomed out with Venril Sathir and I am dubious, so relying on this information was sub-optimal. At the end of the day I'm committed now, but this did throw me off with my decision making. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So for those following up on this and wondering, no, max scowls for an Iksar necromancer is NOT apprehensive. At best its dubious, and potentially threatening at worst. I'll update when I eventually bottom out because I'm stuck at this point.


I wish I could edit my mid-thread response on this subject as it sort've carries forward inaccurate information which I know is now false after verifying. Is there any way to delte/edit an old message? Edit button seems to be gone.
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These are my factions after plenty of leveling in HS and, as far as I know, no concerted effort to faction for OT outpost. Scowling before Lich, Apprehensive with Lich.
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Old 10-14-2025, 09:11 AM
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Your pictures I think account for the issue, you're using Arch Lich and I'm just using Lich. I don't have Arch Lich yes so its very possible that has a more beneficial faction multiplier vs Lich.

Ultimately if this is the case, this messes up my math and I Was closer to threatening than max scowls.

But I had fun down there so it is what it is, I'm committed!
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Old 10-13-2025, 02:20 PM
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the only shame there is staying in basement until 60
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Old 10-13-2025, 02:58 PM
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the only shame there is staying in basement until 60
It was so fast and easy I could not resist. Zero effort or competition to do both wings and the center. No danger, no deaths. Just steamrolled to 60. Zero money to be had but it was the same character who spent 20~ levels doing Paineel guards so I was ok with that.
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Old 10-13-2025, 03:18 PM
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It was so fast and easy I could not resist. Zero effort or competition to do both wings and the center. No danger, no deaths. Just steamrolled to 60. Zero money to be had but it was the same character who spent 20~ levels doing Paineel guards so I was ok with that.
I got my Shaman to 60 down there, and he could only do 1/3-1/4th of what a Necro/Enchanter could do. Great XP camp.
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Old 10-13-2025, 03:43 PM
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It was so fast and easy I could not resist. Zero effort or competition to do both wings and the center. No danger, no deaths. Just steamrolled to 60. Zero money to be had but it was the same character who spent 20~ levels doing Paineel guards so I was ok with that.
What level did you start at? Did you keep track of total hours?

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Old 10-13-2025, 04:11 PM
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What level did you start at? Did you keep track of total hours?

Always interested to hear peoples' experiences for leveling timing
I've got it as a 53-59 camp in the wiki: https://wiki.project1999.com/Charasis_Basement

Might be able to start sooner as a Necro/Enchanter though (I made that page based on Loramin's experience there).
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Old 10-13-2025, 04:54 PM
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I've got it as a 53-59 camp in the wiki: https://wiki.project1999.com/Charasis_Basement

Might be able to start sooner as a Necro/Enchanter though (I made that page based on Loramin's experience there).
Don't really want to start earlier, because you'll get resists and charm breaks.

But the mobs start to green out in basement around level 57. Way easier corpse run than North though. Spent a few mornings naked at entrance of an empty HS killing the pathers hoping for a feaster to spawn just so I could go recover my corpse in North
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Old 10-13-2025, 05:00 PM
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What level did you start at? Did you keep track of total hours?

Always interested to hear peoples' experiences for leveling timing
I'll have to check my screenshots to give you the finer details. I'll check them out tonight after work if time allows. It was almost a year ago so the minutiae escapes me but I can rather confidently say that I spent no more than two weeks there and started at 54 and ended at 60. There were some days I would get a whole level worth of exp which felt rather surprising considering the nature of 55+ grinding.

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But the mobs start to green out in basement around level 57.
Perhaps my recollection is failing me but this was not my experience at all.
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