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[cd288]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're talking 2k ppv vs 30k.

I'm talking 2k+ average online. THJ's average online was ~1.7k with a max around 4k at the highest measurement.

We don't know what the total number of P99 users is. And as we all know, it's a difficult number to even place relevance on, as it's hard to differentiate whether an account is truly a unique user or is an alternate account as most are set up with separate emails, etc.

That's why actively online numbers are more important. And Daybreak doesn't seem to care about those as much as they do monetization, which they have proven by contrasting their pursuit of THJ versus their willingness to allow 4 figure population servers to exist without monetization.

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[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm talking 2k+ average online. THJ's average online was ~1.7k with a max around 4k at the highest measurement.

Thats not true at all, the number comes straight from the lawsuit.

The judge’s preliminary injunction order (Sept 19, 2025) summarizes Daybreak’s evidence and explicitly notes: “In December 2024… THJ already had 2,000 users… today, THJ has more than 30,000 users,” citing Daybreak’s supplemental motion.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats not true at all, the number comes straight from the lawsuit.

The judge’s preliminary injunction order (Sept 19, 2025) summarizes Daybreak’s evidence and explicitly notes: “In December 2024… THJ already had 2,000 users… today, THJ has more than 30,000 users,” citing Daybreak’s supplemental motion.

Yet again, you show poor reading comprehension.

Reread what I wrote in my last comment. 30,000 users is the total number of users, and is different from online numbers. And when looking at total users for emu servers, it's hard to understand how many unique users there truly are.

For instance, let's hypothetically say P99 had 20,000 "users". We'd all know that number isn't truly reflective of the total number of P99 players, because tons of players have multiple accounts. But at the same time it might be hard to narrow down to the true number because, while players have multiple accounts, it's not always clear how many accounts tie to one player (different emails, usernames, P99/eq emu logins, etc.).

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet again, you show poor reading comprehension.

Reread what I wrote in my last comment. 30,000 users is the total number of users, and is different from online numbers. And when looking at total users for emu servers, it's hard to understand how many unique users there truly are.

For instance, let's hypothetically say P99 had 20,000 "users". We'd all know that number isn't truly reflective of the total number of P99 players, because tons of players have multiple accounts. But at the same time it might be hard to narrow down to the true number because, while players have multiple accounts, it's not always clear how many accounts tie to one player (different emails, usernames, P99/eq emu logins, etc.).

No 30k was CONCURRENT that means at any given time there were 3k players. 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week.

What you're looking at with p99 was once, it hit 3k players during the launch week of green.

P99 had an all time high of 4k concurrent players that info is on the EMU site.

[shovelquest]

Also Thj was just hitting its viral growing phase, every day more and more people were joining. More and more videos and streams.

And the cope de grace: Fangbreaker flop

Green server specifically was in the agreement. And was all organized with it to not release until after one of the upcoming tlp server launches.

[sammoHung]

honestly its because daybreaks bloodhound gang of laywers sniffed the grift, and they stepped in to be the heroes of the EQEmu community by shutting down a project that was collecting massive donation money based on stolen IP using a pre-existing codebase that developers on EQEmu have spent years building before it was appropriated into a for-profit money making scheme.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

honestly its because daybreaks bloodhound gang of laywers sniffed the grift, and they stepped in to be the heroes of the EQEmu community by shutting down a project that was collecting massive donation money based on stolen IP using a pre-existing codebase that developers on EQEmu have spent years building before it was appropriated into a for-profit money making scheme.

Agreed

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

honestly its because daybreaks bloodhound gang of laywers sniffed the grift, and they stepped in to be the heroes of the EQEmu community by shutting down a project that was collecting massive donation money based on stolen IP using a pre-existing codebase that developers on EQEmu have spent years building before it was appropriated into a for-profit money making scheme.

Yeah, I've viewed eqemu as a community hobby project. Admitedly I've mainly contributed to the p99 fork, my contributions have been from the perspective of the love of it, and I'm sure others feel the same.

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

honestly its because daybreaks bloodhound gang of laywers sniffed the grift, and they stepped in to be the heroes of the EQEmu community by shutting down a project that was collecting massive donation money based on stolen IP using a pre-existing codebase that developers on EQEmu have spent years building before it was appropriated into a for-profit money making scheme.

If this joke was intended, fucking bravo, especially because The Bad Touch was released in 1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] shit's classic

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[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this joke was intended, fucking bravo, especially because The Bad Touch was released in 1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] shit's classic

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1999 Had Bloodhound Gang, American Pie, the Matrix, Stone Cold Steve Austin and EverQuest. Truly peak humanity.