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Old 08-26-2011, 04:24 PM
Tajin Tajin is offline
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As far as PvP deaths – I have played item loot (VZ EQLive) and I have been a GM during item loot. While it’s fun, there will be players that use this to grief people off the server. Yes I understand that its as easy as /q’ing out and waiting, as opposed to running back, looting, and getting ganked again, but I learned long ago not to assume things from the playerbase. Basically item loot will hurt the population, period. XP loss for pvp deaths will be exploited the same way.. just wait til someone goes AFK at their bindspot and is murdered down 6-8 levels, once again this is begging people to quit the server. Coin Loot must stay in the game, if for no other reason that when we go PKing in RL, we do it to take our victims coins (as well as any ATM/Debit cards). It’s a small little satisfaction that doesn’t hurt anyone to the point of rage quitting. But, if people are hell bent on item loot, try it in the very beginning, and do NOT just add it to the server later after it’s been established.

Fuck that dude, Item loot would be so much fun on this server. Why do u think it will hurt the population. Any server with Rogeans stamp on it will be epic. If people know going in, that its item loot people shouldnt cry that they lose their gears. They should play better.
Please Rogean KEEP ITEM LOOT! Don't let these pussies sway you! At least try it out. If it's that detrimental to the server remove it. The fun part of item loot is trying to get the no drop gear.(happy love bracers ftw) And the grief that comes to the person that lost the gear.
Please don't ruin my immersion and leave out item loot. I need my Rallos Zek circa 1999. Where Anti-Pks consist of 80% of the server and the pks are shunned and frowned upon.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:32 PM
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Fuck that dude, Item loot would be so much fun on this server. Why do u think it will hurt the population. Any server with Rogeans stamp on it will be epic. If people know going in, that its item loot people shouldnt cry that they lose their gears. They should play better.
Please Rogean KEEP ITEM LOOT! Don't let these pussies sway you! At least try it out. If it's that detrimental to the server remove it. The fun part of item loot is trying to get the no drop gear.(happy love bracers ftw) And the grief that comes to the person that lost the gear.
Please don't ruin my immersion and leave out item loot. I need my Rallos Zek circa 1999. Where Anti-Pks consist of 80% of the server and the pks are shunned and frowned upon.
Pipe dream, players aren't of the same ability as they were in 1999, item loot has been tested in the present day with the players on this forum that are going to populate this server, it doesn't work - people bag their shit and run for the hills, it shows a MASSIVE decline in pvp. Why would people be any different, the only people left who will be affected by pvp loot will be the people who are terrible. Personally i like item loot, but it just doesn't promote pvp in the slightest, there are no "new" players coming to this server so you're taking a population of blue players, who like loot obviously and the pvp community who have tested this in the last year and it failed on a massive scale.

You won't get anything like your 1999 rallos, firstly because the player base isn't spasticated anymore, then there's the fact that there's no real tie to a free emulated server - they lose their gear "fuck this" bai.
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Old 08-27-2011, 11:29 AM
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Pipe dream, players aren't of the same ability as they were in 1999, item loot has been tested in the present day with the players on this forum that are going to populate this server, it doesn't work - people bag their shit and run for the hills, it shows a MASSIVE decline in pvp. Why would people be any different, the only people left who will be affected by pvp loot will be the people who are terrible. Personally i like item loot, but it just doesn't promote pvp in the slightest, there are no "new" players coming to this server so you're taking a population of blue players, who like loot obviously and the pvp community who have tested this in the last year and it failed on a massive scale.

You won't get anything like your 1999 rallos, firstly because the player base isn't spasticated anymore, then there's the fact that there's no real tie to a free emulated server - they lose their gear "fuck this" bai.
With Rogeans stamp on this server, the population will flourish! With that being said it won't be hard finding pvp. When was this tested?? Beginning of box 3.0? I had a blasty blast when item loot was enabled on it. I dont think it was a failure.
But I agree some people will run for the hills to save their gears, but alot of people will run regardless if its enabled or not. People just need to man up! How can u not want item loot!?!? Gank people and steal their GEARS! WTF whats not to like.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:41 PM
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Lol more professional pvp moves by vztzject pvp wannabes:

AEing corpses(shouldn't be able to target a corpse to cast a targeted AE/rain) to hit players that couldn't respond.

Exploiting is so pro. I wish I was that good.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:43 PM
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Don't act like people on the blue server don't also exploit the everliving shit out of the game. This is not something specific to red servers.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:45 PM
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Don't act like people on the blue server don't also exploit the everliving shit out of the game. This is not something specific to red servers.
This is very true, everyone will always hack/cheat to do what best benefits them at the cost of whatever else.

This is why it's more detrimental on PvP servers, because the "cost of whatever else" is much higher to "everyone else" not doing it.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:45 PM
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Don't act like people on the blue server don't also exploit the everliving shit out of the game. This is not something specific to red servers.
Not even trying to come close to saying this.

A shitbag cheater is a shitbag cheater, regardless of the game, server, pvp, or not.

The difference here is that exploiting in pvp dicks over people, and not npcs. (You could argue that dicking over npcs via exploits/hacks etc. fucks with players indirectly, but it's not even close in terms of damaging to server health.)
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:55 PM
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Not even trying to come close to saying this.

A shitbag cheater is a shitbag cheater, regardless of the game, server, pvp, or not.

The difference here is that exploiting in pvp dicks over people, and not npcs. (You could argue that dicking over npcs via exploits/hacks etc. fucks with players indirectly, but it's not even close in terms of damaging to server health.)
cheating on blue servers is ok, because relatively speaking, it's not as bad as cheating on red.

right Harrison?
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:56 PM
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cheating on blue servers is ok, because relatively speaking, it's not as bad as cheating on red.

right Harrison?
Just give up already retard. You obviously can't read the fucking quote you put in your own post.

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Old 08-26-2011, 09:47 PM
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cheating on blue servers is ok, because relatively speaking, it's not as bad as cheating on red.

right Harrison?
made me lol

was trying the blue for awhile, camped hermit and a gnoll that spawns on that hill for exp at lvl 27 (necro)

quillmane comes flying randomly, i pull him..

3 minutes later i've kited him away from the hermit into a little area and some random halfling warrior comes out of the woodwork being like "hey bro i need cloak"

he would just find me in the middle of nowhere like that...

yeah those blue players sure legit as fuck.... not really. it's like you say, cheating on blue doesn't have as much impact on others gameplay.

I'm pretty sure there's more unlegit scumbags on p99 then there was on vz/tz

Anyway story ended with me telling him to gtfo and i looted the cloak on my necro
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