What does an anti-psychotic do?

[Reiwa]

Anti-psychotics are all well and good but can never cure a spiritual sickness.

My German friend, could it be said that the Americans are currently experiencing a Sauberung as a sensible statement in your language?

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anti-psychotics are all well and good but can never cure a spiritual sickness.

My German friend, could it be said that the Americans are currently experiencing a Sauberung as a sensible statement in your language?

No.

Just tell me why I wake up with a headache, do anything with a headache and go to sleep with a headache and repeat when I was using Olanzapine. No matter the amount. I didn't take Olanzapine yesterday on 9/11. What a remarkable date to stop this drug use. And I didn't fall asleep.

Guess I will stay awake every night now for 1 or 2 months. Then it should get better. If I die, I die. But I certainly won't kill myself. Never. The headache was worse than no sleep. I only wonder when I will get back the ability to sleep.

Also while staying awake at 00:00 or so I experienced some heavy blood flow or something like this in my brain. Maybe my brain is rebuilding and healing what Olanzapine destroyed and it will be that for a month until I can sleep on my own again.

What do you mean as Sauberung though? And why the Americans? In politics, everything is staged everywhere. I will never go to vote ever again and I stopped voting.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by SorenVC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No.

Just tell me why I wake up with a headache, do anything with a headache and go to sleep with a headache and repeat when I was using Olanzapine. No matter the amount. I didn't take Olanzapine yesterday on 9/11. What a remarkable date to stop this drug use. And I didn't fall asleep.

Guess I will stay awake every night now for 1 or 2 months. Then it should get better. If I die, I die. But I certainly won't kill myself. Never. The headache was worse than no sleep. I only wonder when I will get back the ability to sleep.

Also while staying awake at 00:00 or so I experienced some heavy blood flow or something like this in my brain. Maybe my brain is rebuilding and healing what Olanzapine destroyed and it will be that for a month until I can sleep on my own again.

What do you mean as Sauberung though? And why the Americans? In politics, everything is staged everywhere. I will never go to vote ever again and I stopped voting.

The headaches are from taking your medicine intermittently and bad advice from the former Queen of Pop.



It still can't cure the spiritual sickness within us.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It still can't cure the spiritual sickness within us.

"If you want to believe in something, then believe in it. Just because something isn’t true, that’s no reason you can’t believe in it… Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a [person] needs to believe in the most.”

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The headaches are from taking your medicine intermittently and bad advice from the former Queen of Pop.

Intermittently huh? Wow another new English word learned. You can google search yourself "olanzapine withdrawal reddit" or "olanzapine reviews" and go to drugs.com reviews on Olanzapine for the latter search term and see many people who feel sick on this drug.

I took it for 12 years like a good boy and I thought if I just accept what I'm told and listen, I could get away with little or no pain. Then I realized I never believed in mental health and definitely not that sketchy word called schizophrenia.

Schizophrenia and other mental illness terms is just a word to gaslight the victim so that he will say he is sick and needs those drugs for the rest of his life. Noone will ever believe a schizophrenic or a bank robber or a criminal. These words are of the same effect on people. I don't really believe in schizophrenia or depression or schizoid. I think they want to drug these people for their help fetish.

Think of all the lives Olanzapine destroyed. Man even the suicide rate goes up for Olanzapine users. I thought it was a drug to prevent suicide and harm?

[Reiwa]

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Intermittently huh?

I took it for 12 years like a good boy

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[SorenVC]

Säuberung in my language means as you used it, that weak naive people in a population get killed while the strong survive. I never believed in such a thing to be honest.

[SorenVC]

Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna suffer the withdrawal of Olanzapine for a few weeks then everything should become better. It IS a drug with withdrawal that is normal. And I'm gonna avoid other people and never harm anyone. I'm gonna pretend I feel good around paranoid people who think I'm not taking drugs. And then let's see if I can surpass this medication limitation forced on me when I was 16 years old.

[Jimjam]

What biological basis or systems there maybe to mental health issues are not really understood at all, we’re pretty much limited to “idk, something to do with dopamine/serotonin”, even though the activity of these inside the brain can’t really be measured easily. Likewise the medications are poorly understood beyond “they seem to help some people with a particular pattern of symptoms”. This is before considering the validity of DSM V diagnosis, which guides diagnosis around much of the world (not just America). The same pattern of symptoms can receive completely different diagnosis, and furthermore two people with the same diagnosis may not even share any of the same symptoms. This raises the questions of whether different diagnosis are actually yet also whether a single diagnosis is consistent.

Despite poor evidence for biological basis, dsm style diagnosis does little to consider the life circumstances, events and history of an individual with some researchers suggesting the overlap between schizophrenia and child ptsd is due to the fact that most schizophrenia is undiagnosed untreated cptsd (with proper treatment being primarily therapy, counselling and similar interventions rather than heavy medication).

All that said, psychiatric diagnosis may be the best tool currently available for labelling and organising patients for treatment if nothing else due to bureaucratic and social inertia, and some patients reporting medication helping them manage their symptoms.

Based on your difficulties with medication, and your difficulty having your lived experience recognised, have you considered requesting a referral for some kind of counselling? Whether that be to resolve current life circumstances or examine your life story in a supportive context?

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What biological basis or systems there maybe to mental health issues are not really understood at all, we’re pretty much limited to “idk, something to do with dopamine/serotonin”, even though the activity of these inside the brain can’t really be measured easily. Likewise the medications are poorly understood beyond “they seem to help some people with a particular pattern of symptoms”. This is before considering the validity of DSM V diagnosis, which guides diagnosis around much of the world (not just America). The same pattern of symptoms can receive completely different diagnosis, and furthermore two people with the same diagnosis may not even share any of the same symptoms. This raises the questions of whether different diagnosis are actually yet also whether a single diagnosis is consistent.

Despite poor evidence for biological basis, dsm style diagnosis does little to consider the life circumstances, events and history of an individual with some researchers suggesting the overlap between schizophrenia and child ptsd is due to the fact that most schizophrenia is undiagnosed untreated cptsd (with proper treatment being primarily therapy, counselling and similar interventions rather than heavy medication).

All that said, psychiatric diagnosis may be the best tool currently available for labelling and organising patients for treatment if nothing else due to bureaucratic and social inertia, and some patients reporting medication helping them manage their symptoms.

Based on your difficulties with medication, and your difficulty having your lived experience recognised, have you considered requesting a referral for some kind of counselling? Whether that be to resolve current life circumstances or examine your life story in a supportive context?

I agree with what you said and I think they should STOP WITH THE DRUGS! Therapy would have been so much better, and yes I agree, schizophrenia is untreated cptsd, what else would it be... But I think at this point we should completely get rid of psychiatrists and therapists and only have real psychologists who can show compassion and talk with the victim without ever giving them any drugs.