Enchanter is #1 solo class? What is this madness

[Ruien]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because P99 isn't classic when it comes to its creator's favorite class.

This is objectively true.

But, I think the p99 version really gets the enchanter concept right. I don't know of any other game (single-player included) that implements this particular class as enjoyably or masterfully as is done here.

[Tann]

Originally Posted by Ruien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know of any other game that implements this particular class as enjoyably or masterfully as is done here.

speaking the true true

WoW borrowed heavily from EQ so its no surprise that Charm/Lull made into that game, though they pale in comparison.

[kjs86z2]

enchanter is the only class that can solo farm earth staff

enchanter easily #1

[Vexenu]

Enchanters are a preposterously good solo class due to the OP nature of their spells and the very generous manner in which they are implemented on P1999. To truly convey the power of Enchanters solo versus every other class, it isn't enough to simply rank them #1. That doesn't adequately emphasize the power gulf that separates them from the other classes. You really have to convey it this way:

Solo power rankings:

1) Enchanter
2) None
3) None
4) Shaman
5) None
6) Necro
7) Druid

[Goregasmic]

The thing with chanter is slow/haste is percentage based so it scales well while most other classes will see their skill/spells get flat numbers so it doesn't scale as well. Mobs>50 notoriously scale faster than players so when you can charm you get another leg up on other classes.

Add the ability of bypassing content and resetting mobs, every engagement is on your own terms and if you mess up you can just try again.

It is a very fun class but from a balance stand point we could still have done well with like half the tools. Kinda feels like cheating when you get away with stuff you shouldn't have because your spellbook is so stacked. I kind of suspect it is a bit by design though because charming can be quite the double edged sword.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The thing with chanter is slow/haste is percentage based so it scales well while most other classes will see their skill/spells get flat numbers so it doesn't scale as well. Mobs>50 notoriously scale faster than players so when you can charm you get another leg up on other classes.

Add the ability of bypassing content and resetting mobs, every engagement is on your own terms and if you mess up you can just try again.

It is a very fun class but from a balance stand point we could still have done well with like half the tools. Kinda feels like cheating when you get away with stuff you shouldn't have because your spellbook is so stacked. I kind of suspect it is a bit by design though because charming can be quite the double edged sword.

Absolutely no reason enchanters needed C on top of their already ridiculous toolset. Wizards should have gotten it.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Absolutely no reason enchanters needed C on top of their already ridiculous toolset. Wizards should have gotten it.

In classic charm was far, far less powerful (and safe), so Verant giving Enchanters C made perfect sense: classic Enchanters were primarily a group class.

Verant had no way of knowing that Nilbog would greatly reduce the difficulty of charming on his recreation server years later.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Verant had no way of knowing that Nilbog would greatly reduce the difficulty of charming on his recreation server years later.

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[Potus]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In classic charm was far, far less powerful (and safe), so Verant giving Enchanters C made perfect sense: classic Enchanters were primarily a group class.

Verant had no way of knowing that Nilbog would greatly reduce the difficulty of charming on his recreation server years later.

Literally just read an old thread from 2021 where you kept telling people who played Mages in 1999 to post evidence that the class isn't the same. And here you are saying this.

So where's the evidence?

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Absolutely no reason enchanters needed C on top of their already ridiculous toolset. Wizards should have gotten it.

Makes sense thematically but I find it hard to draw the line at exactly what they shouldn't have gotten. A couple of their 50+ spells are real mana hogs and when it comes to raiding they're basically c2/vog/sieve bots. Outside charm their DPS is terrible.