Tunnel Gear - Warrior Weapons

[sammoHung]

Curious about what people think regarding 2handers vs. 1handers at 55+

I've noticed on my warrior that the one-handers seem to consistently do more DPS than 2 handers like Reaver or Herbalist Spade.

Will that be different with a better two-hander?

I used to tank on Live back in the day, but I used a sword and board vs. raid mobs on a warrior.

Are 2 handers better DPS with a warrior? I remember an ogre warrior that used to be #1 DPS above the rogues and monks with a Shovel of the Harvest

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Curious about what people think regarding 2handers vs. 1handers at 55+

I've noticed on my warrior that the one-handers seem to consistently do more DPS than 2 handers like Reaver or Herbalist Spade.

Will that be different with a better two-hander?

I used to tank on Live back in the day, but I used a sword and board vs. raid mobs on a warrior.

Are 2 handers better DPS with a warrior? I remember an ogre warrior that used to be #1 DPS above the rogues and monks with a Shovel of the Harvest

When 2H weapon damage got improved, weapon advice generally shifted to "use 2h weapons". But 1H damage is still quite good, and a lot closer to 2H damage than people often think.

Looking at my Shadowknight:

1. ~70 DPS using the 2H weapon Ancient Fire Etched Flamberge (Proc DPS not included)

2. ~65 DPS using the 1H weapon Frostwrath (Proc DPS not included)

Frostwrath has a 1.09 ratio, while Flamberge has a 1.045 ratio.

1H weapons tend to be more consistent DPS-wise, while 2H weapons tend to be more variable. That is one reason why 1H weapon parses can seem quite similar (or better) than 2H parses. This is especially true when the difference in average DPS between the two weapon sets isn't large. The average DPS difference between Frostwrath and Flamberge is only about 8%.

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1H weapons tend to be more consistent DPS-wise, while 2H weapons tend to be more variable. That is one reason why 1H weapon parses can seem quite similar (or better) than 2H parses. This is especially true when the difference in average DPS between the two weapon sets isn't large. The average DPS difference between Frostwrath and Flamberge is only about 8%.

Yah, the consistency is what I'm after, heh. It's a long grind to 60.

I wonder how critical hits change this, or if any people with extensive warrior knowledge can piggyback on your sentiment.

Critical / Crippling blows with a 2-hander are quite absurd. 600+ crippling blows with a Reaver - but it's not consistent.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yah, the consistency is what I'm after, heh. It's a long grind to 60.

I wonder how critical hits change this, or if any people with extensive warrior knowledge can piggyback on your sentiment.

Critical / Crippling blows with a 2-hander are quite absurd. 600+ crippling blows with a Reaver - but it's not consistent.

I put in the critical / crippling blow formula into my DPS calculator recently. Haven't done extensive testing against P99, but here are the results.

This example is a 60 Warrior with 255 STR, 100% Haste, and 100 ATK fighting a level 60 mob while berserking:

1. Horn of Hsagra + Blade of Carnage - Horn did 50,000 damage total. 3000 of that damage was Crippling Blows. Blade did 29,000 damage. 2500 of that damage was Crippling Blows. So 5500 Crippling Blow damage / 79,000 total damage = ~7% of your damage comes from Crippling Blows.

2. Reaver - 166,000 damage total. 13,600 of that damage was from Crippling Blows. So 13600 Crippling Blow Damage / 166000 total damage = ~8% of your damage comes from crippling blows.

RNG plays a factor on a per parse basis. But after doing the caluclations a few times, it looks like the percentage of Crippling Blow damage between 1H weapons and 2H weapons is similar on paper. Those 600+ damage hits do feel great though!

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yah, the consistency is what I'm after, heh. It's a long grind to 60.

I wonder how critical hits change this, or if any people with extensive warrior knowledge can piggyback on your sentiment.

Critical / Crippling blows with a 2-hander are quite absurd. 600+ crippling blows with a Reaver - but it's not consistent.

2handed
You don’t miss them when they don’t happen since they are rare, but you appreciate them when they do.

Vs

2hands
They happen often enough and small enough you just can accept them as part of the base dps rate.

An underdiscussed advantage of dw a fast pair is that at low hp they can spit out a bunch of crip blows, which can stun opponents thus reducing incoming dps or even letting you attack from rear fora while.