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Old 08-15-2025, 11:08 PM
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Old 08-16-2025, 12:09 PM
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The project 1999 agreement came out in THJ case files. Rogean can never sell his work, open new servers or add custom anything. If he decides to quit the project, he has to give to daybreak for $0.

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Old 08-16-2025, 12:29 PM
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The project 1999 agreement came out in THJ case files. Rogean can never sell his work, open new servers or add custom anything. If he decides to quit the project, he has to give to daybreak for $0.

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Old 08-16-2025, 12:52 PM
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it doesn't explicitly say they can't release a new server but my LLM pretending to be a lawyer is arguing that "operating a new server would constitute a new project" and

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"The document's protection is for the "Project 1999" emulator and its associated website. The key question is whether Daybreak, and subsequently a court, would view adding a new server or merging existing ones as a continuation of the same project or as a new operation that falls outside the scope of the original agreement."
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Old 08-16-2025, 12:59 PM
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I didn't see anything saying P99 couldn't start a new server (e.g. p99 gold), if and only if Daybreak doesn't put the kibosh on it. The agreement specifically mentions which expansions are allowed as well which go beyond Velious.
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Old 08-16-2025, 01:45 PM
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https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...19107.53.4.pdf

it doesn't explicitly say they can't release a new server but my LLM pretending to be a lawyer is arguing that "operating a new server would constitute a new project" and
Even if that's the case, they don't need a new server to provide "Green 2.0". The plan has always been to keep the exact same number of servers, and just restart Green (after moving the characters to Blue).
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Old 08-18-2025, 06:21 PM
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The project 1999 agreement came out in THJ case files. Rogean can never sell his work, open new servers or add custom anything. If he decides to quit the project, he has to give to daybreak for $0.

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So then he should revert all the custom code changes he made? Are we going to be able to ae unlimited mobs again?
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Old 08-16-2025, 12:15 PM
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"open new servers" i thought it just said they can't counter program to when they release a TLP, he has to coordinate or w/e

biggest news from that entire doc is that up to DoDH counts as classic in their eyes.
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Old 08-16-2025, 09:14 PM
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"open new servers" i thought it just said they can't counter program to when they release a TLP, he has to coordinate or w/e

biggest news from that entire doc is that up to DoDH counts as classic in their eyes.
The non-advertisement language puts the kibosh on that idea.
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Old 08-16-2025, 01:52 PM
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yeah, LLMs aren't great at providing sound legal advice/interpretation that's for sure.
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