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Old 07-29-2025, 02:48 PM
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But this isn't about protecting children: it's about censoring adults.
Yeah but I hate adults AND their profligacy.
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Old 07-29-2025, 02:56 PM
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You know, if we just open up AI you can make whatever sick fantasy you want and we can be rid of all this regulation.

Loramin, how do you feel about being able to make deepfake porn of famous actresses and or other people?
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Old 07-29-2025, 04:38 PM
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You know, if we just open up AI you can make whatever sick fantasy you want and we can be rid of all this regulation.

Loramin, how do you feel about being able to make deepfake porn of famous actresses and or other people?
you ever read the culture novels by iain banks?

if not, you oughta.
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Old 07-29-2025, 03:44 PM
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Psychopaths are easy to find, just look to your top 100 CEOs.
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Old 07-29-2025, 03:48 PM
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Psychopaths are easy to find, just look to your top 100 CEOs.
The duality of man is pretty interesting.

Like from any generation you can say the hunters tend to be psychopaths and the gatherers rely on them but shake their heads while they do it.
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Old 07-29-2025, 04:12 PM
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The duality of man is pretty interesting.

Like from any generation you can say the hunters tend to be psychopaths and the gatherers rely on them but shake their heads while they do it.
Do you think you can be a 'wolf' without being a psychopath?
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Old 07-29-2025, 04:57 PM
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Do you think you can be a 'wolf' without being a psychopath?
depends on how the cells mutate and conditions ripen you and then if you can survive living among psychopaths that want to eat you, sure.

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you ever read the culture novels by iain banks?

if not, you oughta.
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Old 07-29-2025, 05:13 PM
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depends on how the cells mutate and conditions ripen you.

so, sure.
I was asking you specifically Shov because you use metaphor and wolf is a metaphor and anyone following this thread including you can and I hope you will please speak up if you disagree. But I am typing this while expecting you to type your reply and waiting to post until you do because I could always be wrong and if that's the case I'd rather drink from your well than risk poisoning it with something fraudulent or deceptive if you can demonstrate that my conclusions don't hold water.

In my experience not only can you be a wolf, you can be a wolf and have empathy, and further it's possible for even a wolf to be vegan. And we are all animals who eat to survive and vary in our strengths and weaknesses and we all do the best we can. You can be a wolf (figuratively) and still be reasonable and critical about what you eat. I've never met a predator of any species who didn't have their own mind to make up about whether something is worth doing, regardless of their motivations.

I think that only a fool or a psycho would deliberately kill when there's a better choice available that satisfies the recognition of a problem and that the chooser freely accepts as being better, for whom the choice passes all efforts to dismiss it as fraudulent or as a deception by other wolves, and obviates the need to take life. And among all living beings who know sickness, old age, and death - who would dismiss a wise and compassionate physician, who himself appears in a form pleasing and agreeable to the one who is sick, who freely offers a cure for their illness asking nothing else but for them to be aware of the circumstances that caused it?
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Old 07-29-2025, 04:32 PM
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The duality of man is pretty interesting.

Like from any generation you can say the hunters tend to be psychopaths and the gatherers rely on them but shake their heads while they do it.
Setting aside the assumption that gatherers depended on hunters when the reality seems to be the other way around in the vast majority of cultures historically, that seems inaccurate on its face as well. Psychopaths may be hunters (or gatherers), but not all hunters (or gatherers) are psychopaths.

The features that make a psychopath simply tend to be beneficial in corporate culture - aggression, narcissism, blame-shifting, lack of empathy, delusions of grandeur, etc.
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Old 07-29-2025, 04:59 PM
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Setting aside the assumption that gatherers depended on hunters when the reality seems to be the other way around in the vast majority of cultures historically, that seems inaccurate on its face as well. Psychopaths may be hunters (or gatherers), but not all hunters (or gatherers) are psychopaths.

The features that make a psychopath simply tend to be beneficial in corporate culture - aggression, narcissism, blame-shifting, lack of empathy, delusions of grandeur, etc.
if you mean the pencil factory relies on pencil makers not the guy who built the pencil factory then that is just cope.

you can live without the hunters by eating berries sure but the hunters keep bringing sizzling steaks and cool skull crowns back to the camp.

So Im gonna just keep handing over berries to trade them for some of that.

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