Questions on backstab

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still looks like nonsense. But I’m not the one hurting anybody. You are. With your bullshit dps calculator. You need to stop before it destroys the community with your ineptitude.

You still haven't done a code review or compared p99 parses on it. I've asked you to do it many times. You are just making up nonsense because you are a troll.

Your trolling hurts p99, as you scare off people from the forums. Remember how you scared off Sscalez by being an asshole? You need to stop acting like a crazy person.

[Samoht]

Oh, no. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did I really scare off Sscalez? The warm body monk from Riot that thinks 4 = 1? I’m sure we’re better off.

How many people have you scared off with your terrible advice or by pushing your DPS calculator that can’t even calculate off hand damage, backstab damage, or AC above 100? I have never seen anybody so bad at this game insist that they’re so right.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, no. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did I really scare off Sscalez? The warm body monk from Riot that thinks 4 = 1? I’m sure we’re better off.

See? This is the problem. You don't care about other people.

You aren't going to convince anybody you are correct about myself or my DPS calculator with your current behavior. You aren't going to bully me into silence either.

[red_demonman]

Why are you all this way.

[Duik]

Nice to see "questions on backstab" are being answered.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nice to see "questions on backstab" are being answered.

The questions are hiding in the shadows, waiting to strike.

[Duik]

Yes, and the shadows are being provided.

[Snaggles]

I don’t remember much from 20 years ago but when I mainhanded my epic, I frequently did 500’ish backstabs off disc and remember doing about 2k for a max double on-Duelist. Cecily’s specific numbers should be accurate.

Finding this top figure should be fairly easy in Gameparse if around other rogues. Max damage per hit is a column and you can sort by class.

[Goregasmic]

If you start a rogue twink I suppose you get the best ratio mainhand since it would have a bigger impact than backstab damage with a high damage weapon early on?

At what point would you start considering switching from a croaking dirk to something with higher backstab damage even if it has a worse ratio? When you get double backstab? Do you ever before epic?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you start a rogue twink I suppose you get the best ratio mainhand since it would have a bigger impact than backstab damage with a high damage weapon early on?

At what point would you start considering switching from a croaking dirk to something with higher backstab damage even if it has a worse ratio? When you get double backstab? Do you ever before epic?

It depends on your level of twink. Let's assume in this example you don't have access to twinking your Rogue with no drop raid weapons.

Before you meet the level requirement to use Ragebringer, something like Rabid Chokidai Fang would be an easy weapon to get, and it has 14 weapon damage. It is a 14/29 weapon, so the ratio is worse.

According to my DPS calculator, Rabid Chokidai Fang is slightly better than Croaking Dirk from levels 10+ when you include backstab DPS. This assumes you are always backstabbing immediately on cooldown.

Practically speaking I would probably still use Croaking Dirk over Fang before I could use Ragebringer, as the DPS between the two weapons is quite close. My point is to show that a higher damage weapon with a worse ratio and worse delay can still do quite well due to the increased backstab damage.