Daybreak sues THJ

[Reiwa]

I just feel bad for the Quarm players.

They put their faith in the wrong person and got burned for it.

[Ekco]

i'm too lazy to look it up but i'm quite sure i fucking told you this was going to happen in the other thread, other games or one about M&M vs THJ/Quarm


why i quit playing after like 2 weeks

[shovelquest]

If Daygreed shuts it down, I hope thj devs release a full offline client of the game so you can just play by yourself.

Since it's a single player action RPG anyways.

[Ciderpress]

I feel like p99 is safe simply because of the track record. It's been around 16 years, it used to have a higher pop than it does now. Sony and then daybreak could have shut it down at any point and never did. It fills a certain niche that doesn't really threaten daybreak, where quarm and thj do.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like p99 is safe simply because of the track record. It's been around 16 years, it used to have a higher pop than it does now. Sony and then daybreak could have shut it down at any point and never did. It fills a certain niche that doesn't really threaten daybreak, where quarm and thj do.

things have changed in that 16 years though, that's my only point.

Jason Epstein, Ji Ham, and the executive crew there were at best uncommunicative and at worst bald face liars, incapable of investing in any new development, content to live off the milk that the herd of games they bought from SOE could provide. But now that Daybreak is part of a publicly held company, things look like they could get much worse

that was posted in some blog that covers this shit last year, the info and writing on the wall has been there, so just don't act surprised if/when it happens.

[Kutark Validus]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like p99 is safe simply because of the track record. It's been around 16 years, it used to have a higher pop than it does now. Sony and then daybreak could have shut it down at any point and never did. It fills a certain niche that doesn't really threaten daybreak, where quarm and thj do.

Do people really not know about this?

https://wiki.project1999.com/Daybreak_Game_Company

Daybreak and Project 1999 Agreement
In 2015 Project 1999 and Daybreak Game Company entered into a formal legal arrangement.

“It’s been an exciting year for Project 1999 and we have some exciting news we’ve been really anxious to share with all of you. As some of you may be aware, in the past there has been both confusion and concern over the status of Project 1999. We have recently entered into a written agreement with Daybreak Game Company LLC that formally recognizes Project 1999 as a fan based, not-for-profit, classic EverQuest emulation project. The agreement establishes the guidelines that we as a project must follow, but it will allow to us continue to update the game without risk of legal repercussions. As a show of good faith to support the efforts of Daybreak Games, we have decided to reschedule our expansion release as to not conflict with the upcoming new progression server being released in the coming weeks. We would like to personally thank all the folks at Daybreak and acknowledge how awesome it is for a company to work with and embrace the creations of their fans. This is really something that’s unique in the gaming industry.”

[shovelquest]

This helps explain why we haven't seen any new servers here IMO.

[Ciderpress]

Oh I won't act surprised, but there's the bad PR element too. If they want the milk, shutting down a 16 year old good-faith project could actually threaten the milk supply.

[Ekco]

CEOs burn shit to the ground all the time, if line doesn't go up they aren't going to be there for the fall out of the PR damage anyway

i was less worried about the possibility prior to LLMs, there is prolly a 100 other things that come to mind if a human is tasked with cooking the numbers in the short term, a CEO asking a LLM to do a deep dive on their IP holdings is gonna spit something back out with regards to EQ because we post so much here and on reddit and actually give a shit

more than it's going to suggest they tweak something with Palia or some other game ive never fucking heard of they own also

[magnetaress]

I'm actually happy for Quarm shutting down because it was going to be hugely detrimental to Secrets's health, happiness, and likely freedom in the long run.