Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're pretending the original page was "official". As the creator of that page, I can assure you it was wasn't. If you read the original version of the page, it says as much:



I just started with Loraen's version in the hope of creating a starting point for others to improve. Sadly, the forum thread I referenced went nowhere, and then instead of the page being improved, we got a forum/wiki fight.

But again, the wiki is not for anyone to enforce their playstyle on anyone else. It's to benefit the community, and I still believe a solo artist challenge page can do that ... as long as people start being cooperative and constructive instead of fighting.

I never said that the original page was official Loramin. You can literally check the post history.


Yourself and OP brought up the page first before I did lol. OP seems to be going off of that page for his video. He can correct me if I am wrong. Zuranthium and Samoht edited the wiki to change OP's rank to be lower.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree on the pages, but not the tiers. I truly don't think there's anyone out there thinking "man I like soloing, and I really hope five strangers in the forum will judge my work and tell me whether it's a high tier or not?"

I think what normal soloers want is a way to describe their solo fairly. It sucks if someone says "I soloed X" when they did it with 50 potions, and you did it with zero potions.

But at the same time, I don't think anyone wants to count the number of potions used and do advanced calculus to get a soloing score either.

What I think people want from that page is a list of mobs, organized into universally recognized tiers of difficulty (if possible), and a set of options (eg. with puppet strings, with outside buffs, etc.) to qualify their solo. That way two soloers can solo the same mob, and have a common language to describe how they did it.

(And, of course, people can still try to solo things without "modifiers" for more impressive solos. I'm not trying to discourage that ... I just don't think the wiki should take the role of judging whether a solo was a solo, or how good of a solo it is, unless everyone can agree on the standards.)

Why are you refusing to even entertain the idea of multiple solo challenge pages? People write their own guides all the time. I have one in my signature. I did not go into the official ogre or shaman wiki pages and force my changes in there. I made my own page and promoted it.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are you refusing to even entertain the idea of multiple solo challenge pages? People write their own guides all the time. I have one in my signature. I did not go into the official ogre or shaman wiki pages and force my changes in there. I made my own page and promoted it.

I'm not: god you are bad at reading.

I already said multiple pages would be valid. I also said that I think a single page would be more valuable to the community, so I would encourage the latter.

But if all anyone can do is make umpteen different solo challenges, each with their own personal take, then that's the best the wiki can have. I hope it isn't.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not: god you are bad at reading.

I already said multiple pages would be valid. I also said that I think a single page would be more valuable to the community, so I would encourage the latter.

So you are not impartial then. You will take the side of the posters like Zuranthium and Samoht editing the existing wiki page, even when they are literal troll changes.

You do not get to decide this just because you are an admin.