Best solo melee class?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Absolutely untrue. There's plenty of itemization issues in Velious, but finding gear that combines AC/STR/HP + INT/WIS/MANA is not one of them.

It is true. You also forgot about resists, those are important stats too.

I can give you some quick examples of good Ranger gear without mana:

1 Spirit Wracked Cord - only 100 HP item in arm slot.

2. Fungi Tunic - Anytime you swap to Fungi you lose all max mana from your chest piece. This is especially painful if you have Robe of Azure Sky.

3. Vindi Boots

4. A lot of popular Ranger weapons like Meljeldin, Earthcaller, Swiftwind, Silver Whip of Rage, Claw of Lightning, Baton of Flame, etc.

BiS/Near BiS gear like Cazic Eye, Ring of Destruction, etc., will have all stats in good amounts, but it takes a long time to fully BiS a character. For most of your character's career you will have gear that doesn't have all stats. You'll also need to swap to resist gear in some scenarios.

Did you read my post on Blood Ember Gauntlets/Tolan Gauntlets hate generation? I have a video there that shows Blood Ember Gauntlets generating a decent amount of hate.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=428

[Cecily]

Right, how could I forget the iconic ranger piece, Boots of the Vindicator:

Boots of the Vindicator

MAGIC ITEM NO DROP
Slot: FEET
AC: 30
STR: +5 STA: +5 WIS: +5 INT: +5 HP: +50
SV DISEASE: +13
WT: 15.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD SHM
Race: ALL

You should talk about subjects you know about. No I didn't watch your video showing how clickies work you ogre INT weirdo.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right, how could I forget the iconic ranger piece, Boots of the Vindicator:

Boots of the Vindicator

MAGIC ITEM NO DROP
Slot: FEET
AC: 30
STR: +5 STA: +5 WIS: +5 INT: +5 HP: +50
SV DISEASE: +13
WT: 15.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD SHM
Race: ALL

You should talk about subjects you know about. No I didn't watch your video showing how clickies work you ogre INT weirdo.

I was thinking of mithril boots, my apologies. It is late.

I find it amusing that you ignored my entire argument and didn't watch the video that proves you are wrong about Tolan Gauntlets because you pounced on a small mistake.

Leveling 3 Rangers to 60 doesn't mean you know everything. You still don't understand clicky agro or mana management it seems.

You should stop assuming you know everything and try to learn once in a while. Calling everybody else stupid doesn't make it true, or make you look good.

[Cecily]

The presumption that you have anything to educate me with regarding a class I've leveled and raided with extensively which you also don't play is, quite frankly, presumptuous, and I don't appreciate it. Not knowing what you're talking about has never stopped you from interjecting, so it's really a me problem for engaging with a LLM. And I'm not calling everyone else stupid. I'm calling you stupid, specifically.

I apologize for not responding to your argument that items missing mana means that it's difficult to stack mana with raid gear. That was too ignorant a point to take seriously, and I'm not about to list off every piece of wisdom gear.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The presumption that you have anything to educate me with regarding a class I've leveled and raided with extensively which you also don't play is, quite frankly, presumptuous, and I don't appreciate it. Not knowing what you're talking about has never stopped you from interjecting, so it's really a me problem for engaging with a LLM.

The arrogance here is frankly astounding.

You don't seem to understand the basic concept that many game mechanics in P99 are universal across classes. You don't need to level or play a Ranger to learn basic mana management as a group tank.

After leveling 3 Rangers to 60, you still don't understand how to leverage clickies like Tolan Gauntlets to save mana. You don't need to play a Ranger to understand this concept, it works the same across multiple classes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGMz5gpf_EY

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I apologize for not responding to your argument that items missing mana means that it's difficult to stack mana with raid gear. That was too ignorant a point to take seriously, and I'm not about to list off every piece of wisdom gear.

You clearly didn't read my argument. I said repeatedly you can get mana with high end raid gear. But most items in velious are not high end raid gear.

[Cecily]

You keep laboring that point like using slow casting painful to use items are good. That's shaman brain rot from mashing JBBs. That's not an efficient way to play a ranger. And I personally use a Wuoshi shield which casts a quicker and better snare. Ranger agro is generated by flame lick which costs 10 mana. You don't spam clickies for agro on a ranger. I'm perfectly well aware that the concept exists and that it's an option if necessary. I prefer to have a larger mana pool to delay that necessity as long as possible. I've just ignored you about 3 times now suggesting I don't know the concept.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You clearly didn't read my argument. I said repeatedly you can get mana with high end raid gear. But most items in velious are not high end raid gear.

I did read it. I thought your point was idiotic. Yeah I'm specifically talking about raid gear. The fact items exist that don't have wis/mana is not an argument. You also don't need that stat distribution in every slot. Doesn't really merit talking about because it's so trivially true. You are a buffoon.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You keep laboring that point like using slow casting painful to use items are good. That's shaman brain rot from mashing JBBs. That's not an efficient way to play a ranger. And I personally use a Wuoshi shield which casts a quicker and better snare. Ranger agro is generated by flame lick which costs 10 mana. You don't spam clickies for agro on a ranger. I'm perfectly well aware that the concept exists and that it's an option if necessary. I prefer to have a larger mana pool to delay that necessity as long as possible. I've just ignored you about 3 times now suggesting I don't know the concept.

You really need to read people's posts.

I didn't say to spam Tolan Gauntlets. I said you can click them 1-2 times on an incomming mob to get some free agro for 0 mana before the mob gets to you. You can also click them occasionally to save mana in a scenario where you don't need snap agro. This is basic stuff.

You are the one claiming you are running out of mana in an XP group. Clearly that 10 mana is a problem for you.

Woushi shield and Tolan Gauntlets are both 4 second casts.

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did read it. I thought your point was idiotic. Yeah I'm specifically talking about raid gear. The fact items exist that don't have wis/mana is not an argument. You also don't need that stat distribution in every slot. Doesn't really merit talking about because it's so trivially true. You are a buffoon.

Again, you don't read. Most people do not have full BiS Rangers. The magelo of your Ranger you linked isn't full BiS either. So yes, the majority of non-BiS gear is relevant for most players.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Green:Zalea

[Cecily]

So you suggest spending 8 seconds on an incoming mob to get agro similar to 10 mana? Yeah that sounds awful. Stop giving advice.

And apologies, I thought shield was 3.5 second. Guess that's more reason to not use it. Thanks. You did teach me something.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you suggest spending 8 seconds on an incoming mob to get agro similar to 10 mana? Yeah that sounds awful. Stop giving advice.

And apologies, I thought shield was 3.5 second. Guess that's more reason to not use it. Thanks. You did teach me something.

You leveled 3 Rangers to 60 and you are still spamming flame lick until you run out of mana. Yes, 8 seconds of cast time for 0 mana while the mob is coming into camp is going to be better than you spamming flame lick into OOM.

I never said you shouldn't use Woushi shield if you have one lol. You really need to read.

Think about it this way. If you click your shield 60 times an hour instead of 60 Flame Licks, you would save 600 mana per hour. That is the same amount of mana as wearing a Flowing Thought I item. It's a good way to make up for the lack of Flowing Thought items a Ranger has access to.

[Jimjam]

Unlike the BE gloves/boots which I have found rather useful on my SK, I never found Tolan's gloves to get amazing use on my ranger... honestly I'd rather have the extra slot to loot another fine steel sword [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. Even when mucking about in KC they'd barely get any use when looted as primarily a cash item.

Anyways, considering the context of the thread is best solo power, free snare isn't terribly useful, especially as if you are soloing it is pretty easy to quickly catch a med tick and recoup mana spent on casting a snare properly. Soloing an ice burrower is a fun one time thing for a ranger to do when they have a spare hour or so. It is useful there as landing snare without a druid epic is pretty arduous, and by fighting an ice burrower with a ranger you've already committed to being pretty time intensive... I can't remember if you have time to land the snare cast on an unsnared IB, or if you have to start preresnaring before the current one fades. Definitely there must be some kind of 'usecase' there? But honestly, just finding half a second to catch a med tick feels better.