New Druid Advice from the experts

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would anyone want to level from 20-45 (the prime charming levels of a Druid) with the ring, when they can be like DSM, wait until they are 45 and have earned 5k (not even enough to buy the ring), and not benefit from the ring at all?

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

or you can take DSM's advice, wait until you are 45, and farm 6k of plat

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

waiting until you are 45, farming the plat for the ring,

Please quote me where I said you have to wait until level 45 to farm plat. If you can't you need to stop saying this and admit you were wrong. I urge you to stop making things up and then doubling down on them. It just hurts your credibility.

Unfortunately Loramin has done this across multiple threads. He will misread something, and then go on a rant about things people didn't say for multiple pages.

[bcbrown]

I think Loramin's suggestion of doing a little leveling in the area and trying to get lucky with a Courier is a good idea. Fun zone, and since you need to get xp anyway, why not do it in the place with the chance for the single most transformative piece of gear for a charming druid?

If you're charming you're not earning plat, so if you don't happen to get lucky it's not like you'll be buying it until after you've moved on from charming.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think Loramin's suggestion of doing a little leveling in the area and trying to get lucky with a Courier is a good idea. Fun zone, and since you need to get xp anyway, why not do it in the place with the chance for the single most transformative piece of gear for a charming druid?

If you're charming you're not earning plat, so if you don't happen to get lucky it's not like you'll be buying it until after you've moved on from charming.

I didn't say it was a bad idea either. I said I don't advise doing it, because of stories like this:

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My mage did that camp from like 12 to 24 and saw plenty of couriers but no ring. Seeing bloodstone rings in inventories gives me ptsd.

I typically advise new players to do consistent things while leveling. You can farm plat while leveling even at lower levels. Gregorgasmic's list is a good one. Getting to level 24 and having no Ring and no Plat is worse than getting to level 24 with some plat in your bank for basic gear and spells.

Goblin Ring is still 5-6k in 2025 because of it's rarity. That thing's been camped for at least 10 years now on blue. If most level 20's were able to grab a Goblin Ring while leveling, the price would be much lower.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I typically advise new players to do consistent things while leveling. You can farm plat while leveling even at lower levels. Gregorgasmic's list is a good one. Getting to level 24 and having no Ring and no Plat is worse than getting to level 24 with some plat in your bank for basic gear and spells.

I wouldn’t agree it is no plat. Targ shields, finely crafted weapons, sarnak treasures, gems and cat tusks should drop while fighting in the area which is enough to cover the spells and consumables. Obviously doesn’t compare to gargoyles though.

@Loramin, I didn’t mean stop XPing to farm plat, i meant focus on plat rich xp mobs like wisps (which also are huge xp thanks to the GLS quests) and move on as you outlevel them (eg to gargoyle island).

Perhaps i should rephrase my question/ if xping exclusively in plat rich locations then by what level do you (or any other posters) estimate the druid will have saved enough pp for a ggr?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@Loramin, I didn’t mean stop XPing to farm plat, i meant focus on plat rich xp mobs like wisps (which also are huge xp thanks to the GLS quests) and move on as you outlevel them (eg to gargoyle island).

I've been trying to tell Loramin this for pages now. You can get XP and Plat. You don't need to stop XPing and do plat farming exclusively.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been trying to tell Loramin this for pages now. You can get XP and Plat. You don't need to stop XPing and do plat farming exclusively.

You keep mentioning Warrens. As this is a new druid thread I just want to mention it has a green colour leather armour (soft wicker) which some untwinked druids may appreciate the appearance of.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn’t agree it is no plat. Targ shields, finely crafted weapons, sarnak treasures, gems and cat tusks should drop while fighting in the area which is enough to cover the spells and consumables. Obviously doesn’t compare to gargoyles though.

@Loramin, I didn’t mean stop XPing to farm plat, i meant focus on plat rich xp mobs like wisps (which also are huge xp thanks to the GLS quests) and move on as you outlevel them (eg to gargoyle island).

Perhaps i should rephrase my question/ if xping exclusively in plat rich locations then by what level do you (or any other posters) estimate the druid will have saved enough pp for a ggr?

I'll repeat: as a rule, I believe that farming plat/gear as a low-level character is a bad idea.The lower-level toon spends the exact same amount of time, only to get a small fraction of the plat a higher-level toon would. That plat won't help you level faster, because all you can get with "dozens of plat" is a few more stat points. It's a waste time.

But again, rules have exceptions. Most people farm plat for JBoots well before 60, and they're not wrong to do so: the plat farming time will be made up for by the reduced travel time. Likewise, a Mage with a focus item or Shaman with an epic (from their guild) can use those items to save more leveling time than it took to acquire them.

But with the ring, you're not even losing anything (other than the dozens of plat a level 20 can farm), because you'd be doing the exact same thing (killing mobs for XP) anywhere else.

The only difference between a Druid that goes to LOIO at 17, and kills until they get a ring, vs. a Druid that goes to the Warrens (or anywhere else) is that the latter will have dozens more plat, and maybe some minor gear or faction (which, again, a high level character can farm much more easily) ... while the former will have a ring that helps them level faster for 25 or so levels.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was able to afford a lumi staff at level 46.

I'm glad to see you took the XP + Plat leveling path for the most part, and was able to afford a Lumi Staff at 46. That is why I suggest doing that path.

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

is porting for money not good anymore? not enough people playing?

I'd imagine you could make decent money. I don't see a lot of DaP on Blue these days, so there should be less competition if you focused on porting. Less people looking for ports though with lower pops.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only difference between a Druid that goes to LOIO at 17, and kills until they get a ring, vs. a Druid that goes to the Warrens (or anywhere else) is that the latter will have dozens more plat, and maybe some minor gear or faction (which, again, a high level character can farm much more easily) ... while the former will have a ring that helps them level faster for 25 or so levels.

I wouldn't make it sound like everybody gets a Goblin Ring who camps it while leveling. They don't. If Goblin Ring was as common as you claim, it wouldn't be worth 5-6k in 2025 after 10+ years of people farming it. Everybody would have one as the leveled from 12-24, which would drive down the price.

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My mage did that camp from like 12 to 24 and saw plenty of couriers but no ring. Seeing bloodstone rings in inventories gives me ptsd.

[bcbrown]

I think it's a good idea. Blackburrow into WK bandits or Crushbone into Nybright Sisters will give you plenty of money for spells. Then go check out LoIO for a couple levels and a lottery ticket before heading back to EK to start charming. If you want a little walking-around money, get a couple levels on OOT Gargoyles when EK animals green out before heading to CT at 28.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's a good idea. Blackburrow into WK bandits or Crushbone into Nybright Sisters will give you plenty of money for spells. Then go check out LoIO for a couple levels and a lottery ticket before heading back to EK to start charming. If you want a little walking-around money, get a couple levels on OOT Gargoyles when EK animals green out before heading to CT at 28.

Again, I'm not stopping you from doing it. Low levels go fast one way or the other. The druids who avoid the lottery ticket will probably have more money in their bank, which will translate to buying something nice like Goblin Ring or Lumi Staff a bit sooner. Once the mobs for Goblin Ring camp green out, you'd only be able to farm the Goblin Ring while getting no XP or Plat. Or you'd need to buy it.