New posting rules on the state of the game?

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

my vague post can be taken both ways now that i reread it

that's the problem I'm complaining about. people that take a 'theme park' MMO, turn it into an esport, like some Broodwar GOMTv spectacle. The meta escalates. People literally run TAS scripts to control their characters to get a advantage on FTE. It boils down to millisecond latency because both guilds do it.

I'm in the minority, I totally get that. I enjoy competitive video games. I played Tribes, participated in America's Army clan wars, woke up at 4am to watch Idra's Broodwar failures in Korea, and even played Eve Online in 16-hour stints during the great wars. Yet, in the 'dungeons and dragons' simulator category, I seek something more casual. I want to avoid min/maxers and rule lawyers.

TBF I was drunk AF and winding down for the night, I don't even know what I was ranting about in hindsight.

I do notice a lot of people frequently say that there's no market for an MMO as hardcore as EQ in 2025, and in my experience this is the opposite of reality. Like I know so many kids whose entire lives revolve around video games. Like right now in my current online friend group you have a bunch of 40+ year olds like me playing Retail WoW, and then all of the 20 something year olds are all playing Classic WoW and dumping way more hours into the game than I ever did 20+ years ago.

I think there's definitely a market for hardcore MMOs, there's just a short supply.

[shovelquest]

I have never once played an MMO that was even close to ultimate online or everquest, the two games that invented the MMO genera.

[MageBlue]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have never once played an MMO that was even close to ultimate online or everquest, the two games that invented the MMO genera.

Same here, I played EQ when my IRL buddies moved onto EQ2 then I played wow and was blown away how the difficulty was watered down. On p99 green I love trying to start a barb war at night in everfrost with no one in entire zone - fun times!

[shovelquest]

I can remember being a kid when EverQuest was a new game, and when my parents bought Velious and Luclin it almost felt like a waste of money because I was still digesting the Planes and Kunark and really didn't have the time or desire to travel to the new zones as a non-elite player, lol.

That's why I quit everquest. I was like, I haven't even seen half of kunark yet and you're releasing velious? This is just a cash cow.

And I quit. Never looked back until I came to p99 which confirmed my suspicions.

[Swish]

The good news though is Pantheon full release is coming soon.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The good news though is Pantheon full release is coming soon.

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10/10

see you in the next one.

[kjs86z2]

I got denied entry in my guilds AQ40 run last night in SoD classic

They're using ilvl addons to gear check at the door. For guild runs. On SoD where you have immense power from runes, etc...trivializing the content.

People are just spergs and want to fully min/max every aspect of a given game.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

1. time requirement --- no one really dug into that yet.


2. monetization. wanting to box is a form of monetization. You can pay (to run) for x number of chars, why can't you?

3. meta-gaming this is what we call "quality of gamers here I guess. The fact is, people do online shiite a hundred diff ways. Part of meta-gaming *is* that not everyone is on the same page in pugs, in zones, in guilds everything.

Let me suggest this defintion.

Meta-gaming = all the game play diff so-called non-classic "intentions" of the designers. Meta gaming includes everything from crafting macros to any given class's tricks that are always mentioned on eq boards, again, from swarming to ae grps to, naturally botting in and of itself.

[MageBlue]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. time requirement --- no one really dug into that yet.


2. monetization. wanting to box is a form of monetization. You can pay (to run) for x number of chars, why can't you?

3. meta-gaming this is what we call "quality of gamers here I guess. The fact is, people do online shiite a hundred diff ways. Part of meta-gaming *is* that not everyone is on the same page in pugs, in zones, in guilds everything.

Let me suggest this defintion.

Meta-gaming = all the game play diff so-called non-classic "intentions" of the designers. Meta gaming includes everything from crafting macros to any given class's tricks that are always mentioned on eq boards, again, from swarming to ae grps to, naturally botting in and of itself.

I love your avatar - that actor soo funny

Did you ever see the Pink Panther returns

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

If that def holds (it needs some buffing up) then even p99 is largely meta gaming. A DKP race is a meta gaming box, or game moment. It would be easier to say what isn't meta gaming on p99, than what is.

Not sure folks can even what a raid encounter looks like outside of a meta gaming perspective. AI don't lie.