Would EQ be more fun if they made it hard again?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It can’t be stated enough that the biggest factor in difficulty between now and vanilla in just about any game is the evolved meta, not the character’s performance

Just look at WoW classic vs vanilla. Characters are still the exact same in function but molten core which used to take vanilla guilds between 3-5 hours has been done in like 20 minutes or something crazy with an optimal comp in classic

And onyxia that used to regularly wipe 40 man vanilla raids was done with like 5 people? Lol sorry 3 people, looked it up. Takes a long time but it’s doable

Meta is infinitely more impacting than possible character function changes

That's why the only way forward is some kind of ray that mem wipes you. Like from the MiB movies, or, the spells.

It's not just that game's meta, it's the entire meta experience of playing an online computer game. It all has to go.

I still can't get over people expect you to want to hear their voice while you are enjoying playing a game. That kills my immersion immediately. "Don't move past me," said the man who sounds like goatboy.

Type. Type allows you to at least pretend the people you are playing with are likeable people, somewhere, deep down inside. Chat makes it too clear to pretend: I'm spending time with goatboy.

Furthermore, language servers. This is why? To ruin the chaos?

Gans fuck you up ~la

[Duik]

Womp womp

[Cecily]

As to the thread topic. I think EQ was fun because it was novel and it did something new on a scale that we had never seen before. It's addictive and I think that gets confused with fun often. There's a million micro goals to get constant dopamine hits and as I've preached before, this game is a gambling sim with social elements to reinforce the addictiveness. If you feel like you have a community, it's hard to leave the behavior you associate with that community behind. Like you have to drop your friend group if you wanna get off drugs. Game was made by a guy with addiction problems and if the current year you're reading this is any indication, he did a pretty good job channeling that experience into his game.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a million micro goals to get constant dopamine hits and as I've preached before, this game is a gambling sim

by the end i ran out of goals, last thing i did was camp the WR bag in kedge.

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As to the thread topic. I think EQ was fun because it was novel and it did something new on a scale that we had never seen before. It's addictive and I think that gets confused with fun often. There's a million micro goals to get constant dopamine hits and as I've preached before, this game is a gambling sim with social elements to reinforce the addictiveness. If you feel like you have a community, it's hard to leave the behavior you associate with that community behind. Like you have to drop your friend group if you wanna get off drugs. Game was made by a guy with addiction problems and if the current year you're reading this is any indication, he did a pretty good job channeling that experience into his game.

Low blow with that brad smear, smh. Always makes me sad. Hey guys I'm not addicted to eq, it's just that brad was addicted to pills! Nice post hoc rationalization there.

Lots of people play eq casually without issue, they are often referred to as the "filthy casuals".

[Ekco]

[QUOTE=Ciderpress;3716731]Always makes me sad. Hey guys I'm not addicted to eq, it's just that brad was addicted to pills! Nice post hoc rationalization there.
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you act like they aren't tons of interviews/forum posts with/from devs and ex coworkers talking about how shitty of a work environment he caused with his addiction before people politely stopped talking about it after he died from the exact shit people we're criticizing him as person about prior.

[Ciderpress]

[QUOTE=Ekco;3716735]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Always makes me sad. Hey guys I'm not addicted to eq, it's just that brad was addicted to pills! Nice post hoc rationalization there.
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you act like they aren't tons of interviews/forum posts with/from devs and ex coworkers talking about how shitty of a work environment he caused with his addiction before people politely stopped talking about it after he died from the exact shit people we're criticizing him as person about prior.

So? What does that have to do with my critique of cecily passing the buck to brad for her own eq addiction?

I feel like you don't like me now just cause I'm critical of stealing software.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Low blow with that brad smear, smh. Always makes me sad. Hey guys I'm not addicted to eq, it's just that brad was addicted to pills! Nice post hoc rationalization there.

Lots of people play eq casually without issue, they are often referred to as the "filthy casuals".

If you think me saying "made by guy with a drug addiction" is a low blow you should consider what other ways I could have phrased it and realize that I was being pretty tame. Generally the scum of society, cheaters and addicts and homophones and presidents (ie people) lash out when others criticize their problem. So I'm sorry about your history with or present issues with drug addiction that inspired you to make that triple rage post. It's nothing to be a shamed of and I hope you find peace or at least create something with it that people stay addicted to themselves for multiple decades.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think me saying "made by guy with a drug addiction" is a low blow you should consider what other ways I could have phrased it and realize that I was being pretty tame. Generally the scum of society, cheaters and addicts and homophones and presidents (ie people) lash out when others criticize their problem. So I'm sorry about your history with or present issues with drug addiction that inspired you to make that triple rage post. It's nothing to be a shamed of and I hope you find peace or at least create something with it that people stay addicted to themselves for multiple decades.

I think you're shitty for bringing it up at all. Needless comment and just shows that you're shitty

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you're shitty for bringing it up at all. Needless comment and just shows that you're shitty