How do you justify not paying for EverQuest?

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey now Windows is great, for example today win10 informed me that in october it won't be supported anymore, and the PC I built 2 years ago can't upgrade to 11 without some kind of horse shit physical security chip or some god damn stupid bullshit.

Latest windows update just uninstalled wordpad without asking. I love technology.

[Wakanda]

I've paid for TLPs before. I think I actually have some kronos on my account, but haven't logged in since... Oakwynd I think it was called? I just don't enjoy TLPs or the fact that it feels like you are significantly gimping yourself if you don't box. And boxing is super exhaustive, like... no thanks.

I learned a lot on TLPs though, like you really truly learn the lay out of Sol B, Hole, Lower Guk, Sebilis etc. in ways that aren't really possible on P99. Because on TLP your entire group will be pulling dead side of L GUK, and in Sol B I was playing a Monk who was camped at BNB but pulling the whole zone, all the way up to Efreeti. In P99 you don't really get to see the lay out of the zones like that because it's not feasible or realistic.

Also playing an Enc on TLP made me better because of how insane the expectations are. On TLP you are literally having to mez 30 mobs indefinitely while in a camp because of the insane chain pulling. That skill in particular transfers over to P99 fairly well.

You don't learn near as much about charming on TLPs, but the CC'ing a million mobs while keeping your groups buffed... TLP teaches you this really well.

[Duik]

TLP = Handholding. Got it.

[Ekco]

shitting on company time and pirating software isn't stealing.

downloading a mp3 or using vegas to make a video for youtube is some if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it type shit.

burning 100 copies of vegas and selling them, that's stealing. handing out a print out of all the recent movies and taking orders from 100 coworkers for 5 bucks a dvd. that's stealing.

were you raised Catholic or something cuz thats some powerful guilt

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

shitting on company time and pirating software isn't stealing.

downloading a mp3 or using vegas to make a video for youtube is some if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it type shit.

burning 100 copies of vegas and selling them, that's stealing. handing out a print out of all the recent movies and taking orders from 100 coworkers for 5 bucks a dvd. that's stealing.

were you raised Catholic or something cuz thats some powerful guilt

Lol Lutheran (Christian). But yea strict moral upbringing type of parents. Don’t lie. Don’t cheat. Don’t steal. Ever. Especially got that from Dad. To this day even super minor stuff I suggest he lie about he’s like no that’s dishonest. The difference between him and most people is that he doesn’t moral grandstand about doing it like most people’s “virtues”. He just does it, always tells the truth

But I am not like him now. I am perfectly willing and capable to lie based on the damage I think it will (not) do. But I can’t recall stealing even digital anymore. Mostly because I’m not as tech savvy as I was lol. Although if a game was good, I think it is stupid to steal it since paying for it is the way to ensure it gets maintained and possibly updated someday with hopefully some quality

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

shitting on company time and pirating software isn't stealing.

downloading a mp3 or using vegas to make a video for youtube is some if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it type shit.

burning 100 copies of vegas and selling them, that's stealing. handing out a print out of all the recent movies and taking orders from 100 coworkers for 5 bucks a dvd. that's stealing.

were you raised Catholic or something cuz thats some powerful guilt

So it's only stealing if you sell them? What if you give them away? If adobe wants 10 bucks for photoshop, and you offer it for 5, some people will be more likely to get it from you instead. If you give it away *for free*, they will get it from you *guaranteed*. How is that not worse?

You don't have to be catholic or even religious to understand that's ethically fucked.

[Ciderpress]

And mind you, I hate adobe for it's subscription model. I do not begrudge them selling their products though, because it consumes labor and resources to make them. I just want to own a legitimate copy of photoshop, not rent it.

[Ekco]

like are you two literally trolling or something?

"Is it piracy if you don't sell it?
The most familiar type of piracy is the illegal copying and distribution of music, movies, and games from the Internet. While downloading these products—if you pay for them or have permission—isn't a crime, it is a crime if they are sent to others or widely distributed."

if downloading stuff for personal use is a crime, i've stolen a trillion fucking dollars lol.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

like are you two literally trolling or something?

"Is it piracy if you don't sell it?
The most familiar type of piracy is the illegal copying and distribution of music, movies, and games from the Internet. While downloading these products—if you pay for them or have permission—isn't a crime, it is a crime if they are sent to others or widely distributed."

if downloading stuff for personal use is a crime, i've stolen a trillion fucking dollars lol.

How would a service economy work if everyone did that?

Someone spends a certain number of qualified hours making a product or service, which is then illegally downloaded for personal use. By everyone

This reminds me of that Always Sunny episode about Dave n busters. “How does this work again, Mac?”

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if downloading stuff for personal use is a crime, i've stolen a trillion fucking dollars lol.

It is a crime, and also using adblock is a crime.

At least for anyone 20 years younger than you.

And I mean everyone 20 years younger than you.

You got literal punks and metal heads who are like, "I watch the commercials because its how the creators get money! Also piracy is bad for the same reasons."

Fuck this place i hope the whole country burns down.