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Old 02-01-2025, 10:38 PM
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Why all the Orange Man Bad Botten? I mean we all know he is, it just makes you look one dimensional.

Just sit back and watch.
Maybe, just maybe he will come good with a promise and Make 'merica Grate (on your nerves) Again.

All ya politicians are corrupt. They all voted to allow top lvl pollies to be allowed to trade stocks cuz "free trade" none of them wanna give up the free ride.

Trump hasnt emptied the swamp as yet but he does say it. For votes.
Nothing will change really except who can make advantage now.
No one who works a job will make bank.
Same as before.
Relax and quietly laugh. Like me.
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Old 02-02-2025, 12:34 AM
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Why all the Orange Man Bad Botten? I mean we all know he is, it just makes you look one dimensional.

Just sit back and watch.
Maybe, just maybe he will come good with a promise and Make 'merica Grate (on your nerves) Again.

All ya politicians are corrupt. They all voted to allow top lvl pollies to be allowed to trade stocks cuz "free trade" none of them wanna give up the free ride.

Trump hasnt emptied the swamp as yet but he does say it. For votes.
Nothing will change really except who can make advantage now.
No one who works a job will make bank.
Same as before.
Relax and quietly laugh. Like me.
I dunno, I’m a repub but this tariff on Mexico confuddles me

His explanation is that it’s due to Mexico’s hands off attitude towards cartels and drugs. I can’t agree that all or even the majority of Mexico officials are secretly shaking hands with cartel bosses. There have been enough high profile cartel killings of local politicians and police. I used to follow a few different cartel news YouTube channels…

Let’s agree with the hypothesis that Mexico hadn’t done enough, what is it to do now? The only thing that would truly curtail cartels is to try the El Salvadoran way, a massive scale crackdown with a temporary halt on due process. And a lot of risks with that:

- Cartels have infinitely more funding, guns, and tech than shithole gangs, will they go so quietly into the night?

- Does Mexico have a prison system large enough to handle that kind of influx assuming they all casually surrendered?

- No due process is pretty corruptible, and technically wrong on its own, but I had little issue with this when El Salvador did it due to the dire straits they were in to justify it

But if not the Lock Em All Up El Salvador approach, what exactly does he want Mexico to do? Unfortunately the Mexican pres is right, collaboration will work better than antagonization. Does Trump want Mexico bussing more Central American migrants to the US border out of spite? Because they will
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Old 02-02-2025, 01:24 AM
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Putin is rebuilding the Russian empire, it's working, confronting him head on would be too risky (nukes 'n stuff) even if the US could do it conventionally (they can't really), so the US is going to ramp up US empire building, US style, to keep pace.

1) Demand huge concessions from overseas vassals. Germany must commit 5% of GDP which is 50% of total budget to military lololol.

2) Make impossible demands on neighbors, starting with straight up demands for cash money. When they fail to pay up, use it as a reason for demanding more concessions and more access, with the eventual goal of essentially taking over. What are they going to do? Complain about it? Ask China for help? Lololol. BRICS? LMAO.

3) Russia wants half of Ukraine? China wants Taiwan? US will puppet Mexico and probably other SA countries all the way down to Panama, do Canada AND Greenland too, while Europe grovels and gets ready to fight the orcs for democracy. Who's got the biggest dick now, Putin? EL OH EL OH EL.

4) Putin used military force because he lost control of the Ukrainian gov and Ukraine/NATO was becoming a serious military threat on his border, but US is under no direct military threat and will go with tariffs and other economic methods first, which will work much better against allies and neighbors than they did against Russia, and will only use military force if it's really necessary. Probably won't be. Maybe some "police" in Mexico.

5) More stars for the flag, Trump gets credit for getting the ball rolling.

East vs West. Oceania has always been at war with Asia/Russia. Unironically.
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Old 02-02-2025, 03:36 AM
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I dunno, I’m a repub but this tariff on Mexico confuddles me

His explanation is that it’s due to Mexico’s hands off attitude towards cartels and drugs. I can’t agree that all or even the majority of Mexico officials are secretly shaking hands with cartel bosses. There have been enough high profile cartel killings of local politicians and police. I used to follow a few different cartel news YouTube channels…

Let’s agree with the hypothesis that Mexico hadn’t done enough, what is it to do now? The only thing that would truly curtail cartels is to try the El Salvadoran way, a massive scale crackdown with a temporary halt on due process. And a lot of risks with that:

- Cartels have infinitely more funding, guns, and tech than shithole gangs, will they go so quietly into the night?

- Does Mexico have a prison system large enough to handle that kind of influx assuming they all casually surrendered?

- No due process is pretty corruptible, and technically wrong on its own, but I had little issue with this when El Salvador did it due to the dire straits they were in to justify it

But if not the Lock Em All Up El Salvador approach, what exactly does he want Mexico to do? Unfortunately the Mexican pres is right, collaboration will work better than antagonization. Does Trump want Mexico bussing more Central American migrants to the US border out of spite? Because they will
I would imagine what he wants but can't exactly clearly verbalize is for Mexico to stop allowing massive migrant caravans from central america free passage to dip into the US. Probably also fentanyl.

However, corporations run America and massive immigration is in their best interest, so behind all this shock and awe, symbolism and rhetoric, I can't imagine anything substantive will get done. (like cracking down on hiring)
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Old 02-01-2025, 10:41 PM
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Pursuing the fiction

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Old 02-01-2025, 10:52 PM
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CNN: Trump hasn't delivered on any promises!

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He hasn't become dictator

No deportation raids

Only ended 1 war so far

Has only fired a reasonable amount of people
He is totally not delivering on any of (our!) promises what a failure!
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Old 02-01-2025, 10:55 PM
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Only ended 1 war so far
He bombed Somalia. Just because we like it doesn't mean it's not a war.
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Old 02-01-2025, 10:57 PM
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Thank god all this pusy shit was getting to me. Hopefully they forgot three 000's on that Guantanamo joint.
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Old 02-02-2025, 12:14 AM
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Glad we could clear up that the democrat party is only good at enriching themselves and the 1%
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Old 02-02-2025, 12:20 AM
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Bird flu is gonna solve world hunger but in a good way.

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