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Old 02-08-2025, 06:54 PM
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I can fight for myself and do not require a big brother to decide what is safe for me or not

You wouldn't understand, given that you are not an American.

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That quote refers to the tension between liberty and security.

There is a difference between battling misinformation and conspiracy theories. Other countries have shown our 'less educated voters' fall for even the silliest propaganda. Like Pizzagate.

It is why you post The Telegraph youtube channel and fall for the orange man's statement that there wasn't an insurrection.... that in fact there was a push to use fake electors, to manipulate the VP or the use of white supremacy groups on J6 to cause discord.
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Old 02-08-2025, 07:08 PM
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There is a difference between battling misinformation and conspiracy theories. Other countries have shown our 'less educated voters' fall for even the silliest propaganda. Like Pizzagate
Pizzagate tards are just as bad as the people shutting down free speech because the term Kung Fu is racist and somehow a lab leak theory is off the table but let's talk about how they eat like animals out of a wet market, and wtf is a Pangolin, do they eat it? that's not racist at all...

literally took John fucking Stewart on national television to do a hard reboot on the left group think because they wouldn't accept they were wrong about something and how fucking crazy their overreach and how actual nazi like it was as soon as they had the opportunity to assert power over people it corrupted them instantaneously

so the fact you sit here, still claiming to have some claim over the moral highground over the other side, is performance art satire
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Old 02-08-2025, 08:12 PM
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That quote refers to the tension between liberty and security.

There is a difference between battling misinformation and conspiracy theories. Other countries have shown our 'less educated voters' fall for even the silliest propaganda. Like Pizzagate.

It is why you post The Telegraph youtube channel and fall for the orange man's statement that there wasn't an insurrection.... that in fact there was a push to use fake electors, to manipulate the VP or the use of white supremacy groups on J6 to cause discord.
What do you think of zuckerberg revealing that the biden administration aggressively told them what to take down from their site because it was fake news, and that news turned out to be true?
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Old 02-08-2025, 06:46 PM
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Well calling for actual violence is already illegal to my knowledge

It’s a slippery slope for any speech beyond that because why not make the rule no one can ever say anything negative about anyone or anything else ever?

No more fights then
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Old 02-08-2025, 06:51 PM
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Because if we’re coming from the premise of “this particular speech endangers this group” then we’re stuck arbitrating which group is acceptable to be endangered

Because then the right could say “well calling us Nazis endangers us” and the only responses are really “nah it doesn’t” or “that’s ok”. Neither creates cooperation
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Old 02-08-2025, 06:58 PM
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Because if we’re coming from the premise of “this particular speech endangers this group” then we’re stuck arbitrating which group is acceptable to be endangered

Because then the right could say “well calling us Nazis endangers us” and the only responses are really “nah it doesn’t” or “that’s ok”. Neither creates cooperation
Education would be best. And I do have hope because while one party is doing their best to hold back education.. AI is becoming the fact checker they have difficulty arguing with.
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Old 02-08-2025, 07:17 PM
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*sigh

Orange man administration begins dismantling the consumer financial protection bureau.

The CFPB is an agency used to protected Americans from price gouging and from big corporations. It was literally founded for the sole purpose of protecting consumers.

The CFPB even goes after credit companies for fees.

CFPB site is down, Elon posted on X it is dead and it has been announced all official activities are frozen.

OSHA, EPA, CDC and Department of Education are getting destroyed... if government can't function. I suspect the Judicial system's fears are correct soon there won't be any enforcement on their decisions when there is no federal officials and department to enforce them.

The executive branch will rule. Like a monarchy.

Imagine when it comes time to vote again.
The disorganization will allow anything to happen.
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Old 02-08-2025, 08:39 PM
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Education would be best.
I agree 1000%. Prior to it needing to be hardcoded into law, people SHOULD be mindful of what they say. Especially now with what you say and do in your personal life very possible to effect your job. That dude at the football game who called that dude’s wife an ugly cunt, he lost his job over that. That’s kinda weird to me, but this is the world we live in

And the amount of mindfulness should be based on reach. I shouldn’t have to consider what I say as much as, say, youtuber Moistkritical. He seems someone very cognizant of his reach. I’m sure to some he comes across as a fence sitting pussy. But I understand the motivation to do so
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Old 02-08-2025, 06:59 PM
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