monk ratios, primary and offhand choices

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://lucy.allakhazam.com/dmgbonus.html?setcookie=1

Monk primary dmg bonus at level 52 for 1handers: 9
Monk primary damage bonus at level 60 for 1handers: 11
IFS (40 delay) dmg bonus at level 52: 18
IFS (40 delay) dmg bonus at level 60: 34

So for the 1hander you had a 22% bump in dmg bonus 52 vs 60
For IFS there is an 89% bump in dmg bonus 52 vs 60

Bcbrown, I’m not exactly curious why he failed to even respond to this or acknowledge that monks triple attack at level 60 with mainhand.

He ignores anything they doesn’t jive with his preconceived notions.

Remember when he very assertively told a young monk there was no fail message for FD? Or that ANYONE on ANY CLASS could survive AoW if only there were an infinite number of clerics?

Dude isn’t exactly a fount of knowledge.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Looks like your conclusion is that in your parse the 1h setup performed above expected, the 2h setup performed about as expected, the 2hb setup beat the 1hb setup by about 2.6% of DPS, and you think this supports the position that 1h is better than 2h?

If your position is that sometimes, when you're lucky with 1h and unlucky with 2h, 1h is almost as good as 2h, then I have no disagreement with you.

Last time I checked 4508 damage (assuming 50% hit rate) from the 1h combo beats 4393 damage from the 2h weapon (assuming 50% hit rate) without fist weaving. Quite a few people, including Toxigen, are too lazy t[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]o fist weave.

Last time I checked, a 75% chance to get average or above average DPS in a fight is better than a 50% chance to get below average DPS in a single fight.

You really need to read other peoples posts if you are going to reply to them.

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bcbrown, I’m not exactly curious why he failed to even respond to this or acknowledge that monks triple attack at level 60 with mainhand.

He ignores anything they doesn’t jive with his preconceived notions.

Remember when he very assertively told a young monk there was no fail message for FD? Or that ANYONE on ANY CLASS could survive AoW if only there were an infinite number of clerics?

Dude isn’t exactly a fount of knowledge.

Troxx doesn't understand triple attack is at 60, and my monk is at 52. He can simply agree that 1h can be better at lower levels due to the damage bonus on 2h being lower. But his trolling routine doesnt allow him to admit he was wrong in any scenario.

He still hasn't posted any data by the way. He just talks nonsense and spams.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The part I find amusing is that it's the same thing as his original point about variance in small samples!

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Troxx doesn't understand triple attack is at 60, and my monk is at 52. He can simply agree that 1h can be better at lower levels due to the damage bonus on 2h being lower.

Wait, this conversation started with high-ac raid targets. Are you fighting AoW at level 52? Could you clarify your position? If it's that sometimes while leveling 1hb is almost as good as 2hb, then I have no disagreement.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Troxx and Bcbrown have a sample size of 0. They won't remedy this issue.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, this conversation started with high-ac raid targets. Are you fighting AoW at level 52? Could you clarify your position? If it's that sometimes while leveling 1hb is almost as good as 2hb, then I have no disagreement.

You can reread what I've said. You clearly need to, as you think 4508 damage is worse than 4393. I am not sure we can continue the conversation while you think that.

I am just glad to show people that generalizations about 2h weapons are not always true, and you should parse the weapons in question. Clearly 2h does not always beat 1h.

[bcbrown]

The only parse in this thread showed 2h beating 1h.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only parse in this thread showed 2h beating 1h.

4999 1h is greater than 4883 2h, and 4508 1h is greater than 4393 2h. We can't have a conversation while you don't understand this.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

4999 damage over 163 seconds = 30.67
4883 damage over 155 seconds = 31.5 DPS

Which is better?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which is better?

4999 damage, the mob is closer to being dead. Ill take the extra damage over the slight DPS variance.