Discussion: PvP Deaths (Item/Coin/XP Loot/Gain)

[Nirgon]

I agreed with that from the beginning but this xp thing is between OK and meh as a substitute.

[Softcore PK]

I was bindcamped a bit today and did not rage quit despite losing some exp. In the teens it's like 2% exp loss per pvp death, which is like nothing.

[oldfish]

Im not saying pvp never happens, just that things would be 10X more fun without xp loss because youd actually get to pvp often and not just oh i ganked this guy twice hes gone out of my spot now / oh it took 10mins to whip this group out of this zone so now we can bluebie to our hearts content.

[Bazooka]

Originally Posted by oldfish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im not saying pvp never happens, just that things would be 10X more fun without xp loss because youd actually get to pvp often and not just oh i ganked this guy twice hes gone out of my spot now / oh it took 10mins to whip this group out of this zone so now we can bluebie to our hearts content.

No exp penalty = tons of retarded griefing and annoyances that would never go away until someone gets tired and logged.

Oh we took this camp from this guy, then he proceeds to come back from his close ass bind point and cast blind on you or fear your mobs over and over again until you leave the camp or he logs.

Would be retarded bro.

[oldfish]

Originally Posted by Bazooka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No exp penalty = tons of retarded griefing and annoyances that would never go away until someone gets tired and logged.

Oh we took this camp from this guy, then he proceeds to come back from his close ass bind point and cast blind on you or fear your mobs over and over again until you leave the camp or he logs.

Would be retarded bro.

The only difference between this and xp loss is that without xp loss youd still fight over camps, but youd pvp alot doing that. Somebody would get tired of dying sooner or later.

I enjoyed EQ pvp, although it was a pain in the ass to sit and med after each death. This isnt classic at all, i can understand a change here and there but unlike blue, this feels nothing like Rallos.

The problem i think with Softcore, Smedy and others who think that way is that they think a "balance" of a little pvp vs alot of pve is fine and that the purpose of pvp is to control camps, not pvping in itself, that right there is not classic Rallos. To me it makes things boring. I think im just gonna stop leveling and grief the fuck out of people because im so bored already. Im not gonna bore myself to death grinding to 50 if im not going to pvp alot. So im just gonna stop here at 14 and fuck with people, then quit when people start rolling lolxploss twinks.

[Bazooka]

Originally Posted by oldfish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Somebody would get tired of dying sooner or later.

Sick of dying with no penalty?

I think you are GREATLY underestimating the trolling/griefing that players here are capable of pal.

[Smedy]

The xp loss of dieing in pvp is barely noticable, its a nice feature vs bindrushing retards in the later levels.

I think you're over reacting.

[Softcore PK]

All you've done since you got here is complain, Oldfish. It's a drag and you're harshing my buzz. Can't you try to enjoy it? :/

[Smedy]

Yeah many don't do solo pvp on the lower levels cause classes really don't come into their true form until 20+

My guess is that you want to get to an area where there are many int casters, they usually like to solo pvp on the earlier lvls due to the huge advantages they have.

You have to remember that many are stressed doing the thex dagger and other things before its to late, not many has had real time to enjoy the game yet, everyone is racing to get some levels first. Just stick around i know the grind can get really retarded though but then again fast experience has been tested and it doesn't really fix anything, if else it just encourages cheaters to cheat more as the penalty for cheating and getting your character removed really isn't a big deal if you can just re level within a few days.

[oldfish]

To me the xp rate is fine, as long as i get to mix it with pvp sessions. Im just gonna go out tonite, have some fun and try to kill some peeps all nite long. If i end up being 10 at the end of my pvp session, so be it.