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Old 10-05-2011, 12:46 PM
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The problem I have with item loot is that I enjoy being able to wear gear. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You either do everything naked or as soon as you engage in pvp, you just stop doing anything and start bagging your gear. Neither is fun and I think that is key here.
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:21 PM
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You can run and bag gear at the same time. You don't have to freeze in terror, you can run too. Doing a /who in zone should be a learned practice, you are making this gear bagging thing into something it isn't.

Man I don't know how RZ ever had any raiding guilds or people past 50, let alone pvp at those levels. How'd they win a test of tactics in all no-drop gear? It must have never happened.

Oh wait, they did have droppable gear. The point is you don't wear your best DROPPABLE items EVERYWHERE. People running around in red dragon breastplates and shit fully resisting anything you throw at them. These guys did just fine smacking down anyone on their bad side in their planar gear and planar/god/dragon/epic weapons. It was a fun and exciting mechanic in pvp.

Item loot is clearly ruled out, obviously for the fact of it will deter people from playing whether or not if they know it is good for the game. Months from now, you will see what I mean. Have fun attracting new players to the server when there are things MUCH worse than naked mages hunting the newbie areas because that's what all the 50s who can't hack it contesting raid targets will probably be doing.


Add to the above list that it is better to try and kill players for their gear on a raid than try to train them and just disrupt it in any way possible.

Then again, most people will just be shit spewing random pk casters, with the intelligent raid capable players being a minority.
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:32 PM
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Also... Polling a bunch of bluebies about no item loot is like polling a bunch of frogs on if they like to eat flies or not. If you really want to draw in a new player base and have lasting appeal, item loot should be considered on red.
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:38 PM
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Also... Polling a bunch of bluebies about no item loot is like polling a bunch of frogs on if they like to eat flies or not. If you really want to draw in a new player base and have lasting appeal, item loot should be considered on red.
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Old 10-06-2011, 07:12 PM
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Also... Polling a bunch of bluebies about no item loot is like polling a bunch of frogs on if they like to eat flies or not. If you really want to draw in a new player base and have lasting appeal, item loot should be considered on red.

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Old 10-06-2011, 07:19 PM
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Add to the above list that it is better to try and kill players for their gear on a raid than try to train them and just disrupt it in any way possible..
^^This^^

Item loot, doing the PlayNicePolicy's job since 1999.

You see? with item loot in why would you train a raid and let those silly mobs get all the kill shots when you could just recruit 2 of your buddies and kill / loot the clerics / casters and keep the phatlewtz for yourselves? Dam blubies L2EQPvP
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Old 10-05-2011, 06:16 PM
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All coin loot does is cause people to destroy their coin before they die.

(see bagging and item loot for reference)

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Old 10-06-2011, 07:21 AM
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A naked caster fighting against a melee is almost the same as a geared caster fighting a melee. The lack of MR will sting a little against hybrids, but most casters have tools that let them deal with getting rooted. Aside from resist gear, classic caster gear pretty much just gives mana. A naked caster will have pretty much the same survivability as a geared caster when against a melee.
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:08 PM
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A naked caster fighting against a melee is almost the same as a geared caster fighting a melee. The lack of MR will sting a little against hybrids, but most casters have tools that let them deal with getting rooted. Aside from resist gear, classic caster gear pretty much just gives mana. A naked caster will have pretty much the same survivability as a geared caster when against a melee.
Not to mention that a naked caster can run by and one shot a melee in combat etc. Naked casters still destroy.
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Old 10-06-2011, 07:18 PM
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