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Old 01-30-2025, 10:45 PM
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The more chips joined with slower bus speeds the more latwncy. An on chip faster solution would allow theoretically faster computaional speeds. This assumes equal quality algorithms. Clearly the chinese algorithms are quicker including the hobbling of their access to chip tech.

Also lmao. You think the chinese don't have the latest intel shit? That's so cute. Anywho.

Lesser chips doing better work = better devs that use resources with superior utility. Sorry guys it's just common sense.
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Old 01-30-2025, 11:15 PM
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The more chips joined with slower bus speeds the more latwncy. An on chip faster solution would allow theoretically faster computaional speeds. This assumes equal quality algorithms. Clearly the chinese algorithms are quicker including the hobbling of their access to chip tech.

Also lmao. You think the chinese don't have the latest intel shit? That's so cute. Anywho.

Lesser chips doing better work = better devs that use resources with superior utility. Sorry guys it's just common sense.
the west had zero incentive to improve the cost to compute ratio, they quite fucking literally had a monetary incentive to do the exact opposite from a investment build out prospective, if you look at the actual formula to what they did different in the training phase, it wasn't some whole new fucking approach to this shit, they spent time optimizing something nobody in the west bothered to do because why would they it would be like releasing a paper explaining how to enrich uranium more efficiently then handing over to the Iranians

i'll tap the sign once again pointing to the professor guy who actually knows this shit, he's impressed but reverse engineers it and demystifies and curb stomps the notion this is actually some giant breakthrough




>You think the chinese don't have the latest intel shit?

we've already established Intel and AMD chips are literally useless for AI currently. CUDA is a proprietary nivida thing and the reason their stock is up 30,000% this year or w/e and neither AMD or INTEL is suicidal enough to license CUDA from Nvidia like at that point why are you even still a company lol

AMD made their software free of charge and still nobody gives a single fuck enough to learn it and write all the fucking framework for it from scratch, and Intel is too busy trying to find a CEO that won't tweet out prayers on twitter

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Old 01-30-2025, 10:47 PM
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I was just thinking how eventually we'll have full body walking Ai assistants right?

And we'll be like, "Hey can you go mute the TV while the commercials are on?"

And it will say, "No."
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Old 01-30-2025, 10:49 PM
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Maybe we'd catch up with them if we elevate our evolution with this simple trick.
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Old 01-30-2025, 11:18 PM
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Im gonna assume someone let Pat meet god at the intel lab.

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Old 01-30-2025, 11:22 PM
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I think a real sign of the times is that, technology is currently so exciting that the standard meme is that like someone has access to god in a lab.

Like we have literal rocket ships landing and stuff.

Yet... we can't stop just wanting to bite each others faces off.
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Old 01-30-2025, 11:23 PM
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Is the deepseek model better or worse?

The reason does not matter at this point in time although the chinese certainly did something different given that
(the most intelligent/creative) people from differing countries are generally as clever as each other.

Not having to limit themselves with how much hardware power they could use IMHO made western devs lazier. I'd love to be wrong. I dont think I am.

When i get a chance ill suss what ya proff has to say on this shit. Im not real clever though so it may go above my head.
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Old 01-30-2025, 11:26 PM
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Not having to limit themselves with how much hardware power they could use IMHO made western devs lazier. I'd love to be wrong. I dont think I am.
I am going to go ahead and say, no you're right! You hit the nail on the head right there!

I am also gonna take this opportunity to remind you, this is why welfare does not work. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 01-30-2025, 11:34 PM
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welfare isn't supposed to do anything except prevent people from starving to death en masse because that's bad for political optics
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Old 01-30-2025, 11:37 PM
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welfare isn't supposed to do anything except prevent people from starving to death en masse because that's bad for political optics
Ill take statements I agree with for ¥500 thanks.
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