Are we allowed to like AI art?

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Education is ripe for abuse, the current policy trends with AI is like teaching only certain kids (rich kids) certain things.

Making 2 interents, one for the "responsible people" (rich kids) and another limited one for the rest.

We're cooked.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/t...-suicide.html#

I skimmed it. He had at one point expressed having those thoughts to the AI bot, which rather than do the responsible thing and direct him to a hotline manned by professionals it requested he not go through with it. Not the worst thing it could respond, but again not the responsible thing to protect life

The kid then was typing how he wanted to be with her and she asked him to come home. The kid apparently had the deluded belief that by dying he would go to the AI world or something

Again I only skimmed it, so my cliff notes might be off

[arvidez]

you didnt read it because it is a terrible article. he was ignored and judged. how would you even spot "mild aspergers"?...didnt they say aspergers when they couldnt pin autism on someone?
No mention of the drugs he was on is curious

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Originally Posted by arvidez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you didnt read it because it is a terrible article

I will admit, NY Times is not one of my preferred publishers. I had first heard about the situation I think from a MoistKritical vid

Still, speaking in generalities without any facts (my preference lol), responsibility for a teen suicide is in order of significance: The teen’s > the teen’s parents > everyone and everything else. IMO

[arvidez]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still, speaking in generalities without any facts (my preference lol), responsibility for a teen suicide is in order of significance: The teenÂ’s > the teenÂ’s parents > everyone and everything else. IMO

"they die" a psyche dr said in Raising Ophelia(i think) about the early teen years of the girls he was seeing. girls because i dont know.

i would take the teen's responsibly off the table. would be like blaming a toddler for a diaper rash or for eating the paint chips. i mean he IS the one who shit himself.

PARENTS>village is my take

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Originally Posted by arvidez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PARENTS>village is my take

pov when the village raises the kids

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Originally Posted by arvidez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"they die" a psyche dr said in Raising Ophelia(i think) about the early teen years of the girls he was seeing. girls because i dont know.

i would take the teen's responsibly off the table. would be like blaming a toddler for a diaper rash or for eating the paint chips. i mean he IS the one who shit himself.

PARENTS>village is my take

It’s a spectrum, the level of responsibility of the victim is proportional to age, to me

It is the parent’s legal (and we would all hope moral) responsibility to protect the teen. They are also the only entity which can sign the teen up for any formal treatment

But it is possible for a parent to be as vigilant as they can considering they also have the attention towards keeping the lights on and other various important things, and for a teen to still surprise them with a suicide

So then the responsibility goes back to the teen to be willing to tell someone. Even if they told their friend, a good parent would have that friend’s number and the friend could tell the parent. But if they don’t tell anyone, not a parent, not a friend, no one, and just do it, almost nothing can protect them at that point

To me, there is a “due diligence”. And it is possible for a parent to have done this and still lost their kid

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Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ItÂ’s a spectrum, the level of responsibility of the victim is proportional to age, to me

It is the parentÂ’s legal (and we would all hope moral) responsibility to protect the teen. They are also the only entity which can sign the teen up for any formal treatment

But it is possible for a parent to be as vigilant as they can considering they also have the attention towards keeping the lights on and other various important things, and for a teen to still surprise them with a suicide

So then the responsibility goes back to the teen to be willing to tell someone. Even if they told their friend, a good parent would have that friendÂ’s number and the friend could tell the parent. But if they donÂ’t tell anyone, not a parent, not a friend, no one, and just do it, almost nothing can protect them at that point

To me, there is a “due diligence”. And it is possible for a parent to have done this and still lost their kid

i dealt with the trap of suicide ideation for a few years. i heard the wonderful phrase "i will, a will just, i am going to **** myself" literally every day, multiple times a day. they have no control.
you are right about keeping the lights on. i couldnt imagine dealing with that and the stress of keeping the lights on. i was lucky i guess. the hardest part was admitting the part i played allowing her to end up where she was.

due diligence = due suffering as you discover your very own unconscious evil.

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Originally Posted by arvidez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

didnt they say aspergers when they couldnt pin autism on someone?

They cant. But AI can. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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I am a pacifist.

But I often wonder if I would be a goose stepping war criminal if I was born in a different place.

I really can't know. I really can't.

Ive had lots of opportunities to bash people growing up. You know, beat them up, drag them behind cars and stuff. And always stayed far away from that type of behavior.

But I blame my mother for teaching me good values. Idk. Idk if I was born down the road would I be a bad boy or be the same boy?

Did my mom really put an internal voice inside my head as a toddler, that I never wanted to hurt anyone, ever? Idk.. seems like bullshit and it's genetic.