Oops, TMO's/Taken mistake.

[Tibador]

Seriouslly you WE DID NOT exploit nagafen we found out it was not banishing from the 5 people we had there above 52 and one of them was me we had already bound ready for the banish so we could run back in and help we even said in TS for the whole guild to hear so get your spies handy that why have we not been banished yet so we made sure it was not working by having one of the necro's go in and cast directly on Naggy he did not get banished by that time he was dead and we reported the issue so cry me a river.

[Glitterati]

Well the 2 guilds that were there first had a very nice compromise in place about who would get which mob when they spawned, clearly playin nice with each other and going to different islands, TMO killed the Eye again tonight, big gratz on that kill guys. But then TR came up and sat the whole raid on Djorns spawn point and left 2 guilds who had worked together and wanted to play nice with each other, well, it left them rather upset to say the least. Which leads us to this lovely little thread. I'd like to gratz Zeelot and his TMO crew on their sky kills and quest completions, Glitterati owes you all beers.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Glitterati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well the 2 guilds that were there first had a very nice compromise in place about who would get which mob when they spawned, clearly playin nice with each other and going to different islands, TMO killed the Eye again tonight, big gratz on that kill guys. But then TR came up and sat the whole raid on Djorns spawn point and left 2 guilds who had worked together and wanted to play nice with each other, well, it left them rather upset to say the least. Which leads us to this lovely little thread. I'd like to gratz Zeelot and his TMO crew on their sky kills and quest completions, Glitterati owes you all beers.

Ya we try to play nice, even offered eye loot to a taken player, since it was rotting.

Not to mention they put 15 on spawn and tried to play the poopsock game.... which Uth said was over.... yes we have screens

[Ektar]

I decided to give asia to my pal bob and europe to my pal billy, but when I went to set my flags in their soil they were like no wtf mate?

weird.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Bisch you're blind and a fool. You want the server to change have them change what they are doing to create these situations. You think you hear from Sodapop or whomever what the situation is and you come here preaching? Instead of creating situations where conflict and petitions and flame come from how about play with a little bit of common sense and courtesy. And Bisch don't get you started or what? You going to bail on another guild and then try coming back to bail again? Or is just the latest propaganda ploy, Jabroni asked to train, your initiation is this? Laugh. Don't get you started, chuckle. I'm shaking in my boots. We exploited Naggy Vox? The only time you guys hear about these bugs is when I petition, the only reason you types are mad is because I brought it to light and now the true exploiters can't continue to use it. Try some new material, the same stuff is tired. We all are cheaters and exploiters if we get near a raid mob TR wants. Check. Transcendence was full of cheaters, and now Taken is hack city! Did you forget the part where Virt went to IB? Or YOU left also?

Just come clean about what it is you are doing, and have the balls to not hide behind the 'what is right' stance. You're kissing ass, if you really wanted change you would have been villifying their behavior for months here. But let anyone mess with TR and here you come! They can exploit things forever and a day, but let someone else come across the bug, and OMG light it up! The fact is none of you really want change because until I spoke out (and a bit more then I wanted to originally) you all just stuck to the shadows and didn't have the guts to stand up for it. By going along with all the petty little shit for how many months now you have helped perpetuate what exists now. You pick and choose what 'rule' you want to stand up for and when, yet not once have any of you sheep stood up for raid nice play nice. Or being courteous and respectful, don't be a douchebag and on and on.

What kind of server do you want, a server where you can go raid a plane, and work out something with any other guilds and share mobs or a server where everyone goes to a place other guilds are at and then camps out 40 some people under a spawn point for hours to days.

[Glitterati]

And seriously, the first time we've gotten our hands on Nagafen in over a year and we were lead to believe by the top guild that it's banishing now so we think it's working as intended. The first time! In a Year! First time! Since the nerf! And now we're a bunch of dirty exploiters. Fuck you guys!

[TR Spokesman]

Psh, VD is just sticking up for us because we are "in talks" about a possible merger.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

It is also a fact our guildchat is watched and monitored so to prevent other people from taking that information to cause us harm or give another guild an advantage we moderate it. The tin foil part would come into play if we thought people were watching our guildchat and they weren't. If they are, it isn't a theory, it is fact. The fact you know about it and seem upset could be attributed to you having nothing as a result. But yes, for the masses at large we avoid saying anything in guildchat because we don't trust the staff.

And I am still waiting for your 'Don't start with me'.

[Rais]

Bisch you're blind and a fool. You want the server to change have them change what they are doing to create these situations. You think you hear from Sodapop or whomever what the situation is and you come here preaching? Instead of creating situations where conflict and petitions and flame come from how about play with a little bit of common sense and courtesy. And Bisch don't get you started or what? You going to bail on another guild and then try coming back to bail again? Or is just the latest propaganda ploy, Jabroni asked to train, your initiation is this? Laugh. Don't get you started, chuckle. I'm shaking in my boots. We exploited Naggy Vox? The only time you guys hear about these bugs is when I petition, the only reason you types are mad is because I brought it to light and now the true exploiters can't continue to use it. Try some new material, the same stuff is tired. We all are cheaters and exploiters if we get near a raid mob TR wants. Check. Transcendence was full of cheaters, and now Taken is hack city! Did you forget the part where Virt went to IB? Or YOU left also?

Just come clean about what it is you are doing, and have the balls to not hide behind the 'what is right' stance. You're kissing ass, if you really wanted change you would have been villifying their behavior for months here. But let anyone mess with TR and here you come! They can exploit things forever and a day, but let someone else come across the bug, and OMG light it up! The fact is none of you really want change because until I spoke out (and a bit more then I wanted to originally) you all just stuck to the shadows and didn't have the guts to stand up for it. By going along with all the petty little shit for how many months now you have helped perpetuate what exists now. You pick and choose what 'rule' you want to stand up for and when, yet not once have any of you sheep stood up for raid nice play nice. Or being courteous and respectful, don't be a douchebag and on and on.

What kind of server do you want, a server where you can go raid a plane, and work out something with any other guilds and share mobs or a server where everyone goes to a place other guilds are at and then camps out 40 some people under a spawn point for hours to days.
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Why so angry at me? The fact I can point the finger and say YOUR guild did everything I said it did? You don't have a leg to stand on for staying with those who cheated, and now part of your guild leadership.

I'll break it down for you barnie style.

[QUOTEYou going to bail on another guild and then try coming back to bail again? ][/QUOTE]

Are you talking about Trans or VD? I left Trans knowing what was going on in that guild. My friends from Trans decided to join TR. I decided to go the casual play type. If you're talking about VD. You have no idea what happen, why I had left, or why I came back. And trust me, it has no resemblance to "bailing" on them.

Or is just the latest propaganda ploy, Jabroni asked to train, your initiation is this? Laugh. Don't get you started, chuckle. I'm shaking in my boots. We exploited Naggy Vox? The only time you guys hear about these bugs is when I petition, the only reason you types are mad is because I brought it to light and now the true exploiters can't continue to use it.

What the fuck are you talking about? Who is Jabroni? What does he have anything to do with this?

Taken exploited Naggy by having lvl 53+ cast on him till he was dead. There are active screenshots that show this. On classic a lvl 53+player was banshied as soon as you were on their agro list. Being inside naggy/vox agro range=being on their list. No ways around that. So your excuse is " We were rushed by TR being dickheads trying to leapfrog us (I agree, pretty shitty move) so well use anything to win." Yea, good going on that one.Then you turn around and petition it. Hey pat on the back for you for finding this bug, and I hope if other guilds exploiting this before that kill are punished as well.

Transcendence was full of cheaters, and now Taken is hack city! Did you forget the part where Virt went to IB? Or YOU left also?

I reported every single person in Trans. I even reported Virt. Everyone who 2boxed or used ShowEq. So what if Virt went to IB,something happened between him and the staff for him to become a guide shortly after. I left Trans. Period. I was guildless for a month, and joined VD. What does this have to do with anything?

The fact is none of you really want change because until I spoke out (and a bit more then I wanted to originally) you all just stuck to the shadows and didn't have the guts to stand up for it. By going along with all the petty little shit for how many months now you have helped perpetuate what exists now. You pick and choose what 'rule' you want to stand up for and when, yet not once have any of you sheep stood up for raid nice play nice. Or being courteous and respectful, don't be a douchebag and on and on.

Are you kidding me? Go back though any of my posts saying I support how this server is being treated by the major guilds. I just point out the stupid shit that you all do, and what it does to the servers health. You want to thump your chest saying " ME WORK IT OUT. ME SMART, WE GET ALONG", but you're full of shit.

2weeks ago VD was in sky setting up for noble. You port in from clearing Hate or Fear. You didn't send one tell to ask if we will be pulling or anything. You clicked up to island 1.5 to pull noble from me. So don't try and pretend you're the savior of the server to work things out. You and Acerer are the only 2 pullers/raid leaders who never worked with me as I pulled any planes. DA(Durison) and TR(Perun/Kins) always worked with me.

What kind of server do you want, a server where you can go raid a plane, and work out something with any other guilds and share mobs or a server where everyone goes to a place other guilds are at and then camps out 40 some people under a spawn point for hours to days.

Just by your actions tonight shows what kind of server you want. Have you seen VD sit and wait for a spawn? Have you seen us leapfrog? Are we perfect? No we have our issues, but we haven't gone down to the level of other guilds on this server.

So before you make another 1000 word paragraph, rethink your thoughts and ask why you are upset. It's it because I told the truth, and calling people on it? Or are you upset I'm slaying super model pussy, even while I'm typing this?

You have nothing on me. You're guild has been shown to exploit, now engaging other peoples spawns and has SEQ users. Oh, I'm not in TR. So stop using your rage and use your brain.

[TR Spokesman]

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you seen VD sit and wait for a spawn?

pretty sure i have seen them do this