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View Poll Results: URN - Urn Resistance Network
Yes 12 42.86%
Yes, but it won’t fix the problem 4 14.29%
No 12 42.86%
No, but open to other ideas 0 0%
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Old 08-14-2024, 08:33 AM
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EQ is just an electronic sweatshop.
Never gonna remove the sweat.
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Old 08-14-2024, 08:47 AM
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EQ is just an electronic sweatshop.
Never gonna remove the sweat.
Actually, EQ’s developers implemented several changes over the years to reduce the issues of camp control and monopolization, including instancing, dynamic spawns, tasks/expeditions, loot lockouts, spawn rate changes, and other systems that made the game more accessible. However, this poll is about finding a solution within the framework of P99, specifically whether the URN system from Blue would be a good fit for Green.
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Old 08-14-2024, 10:15 AM
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Actually, EQ’s developers implemented several changes over the years to reduce the issues of camp control and monopolization, including instancing, dynamic spawns, tasks/expeditions, loot lockouts, spawn rate changes, and other systems that made the game more accessible. However, this poll is about finding a solution within the framework of P99, specifically whether the URN system from Blue would be a good fit for Green.
Okay...
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Old 08-14-2024, 07:06 PM
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Camp monopolization is not something that existed in EQ in the first place. The play nice policy dictated that spawns must be shared, and before that it was DPS race. Although the problem remains that some NPC's have absolutely absurd respawn times.
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Old 08-15-2024, 09:14 AM
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berbax. Has anyone messaged you wanting to do as you suggest yet?
Discouraging people who you know wont agree is the biggest red flag there is.
You say you want community engagement, has anyone engaged with you as yet? Enough to overrun the existing sweatpants brigade?
If not, you lose.
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Old 08-15-2024, 10:11 AM
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berbax. Has anyone messaged you wanting to do as you suggest yet?
Discouraging people who you know wont agree is the biggest red flag there is.
You say you want community engagement, has anyone engaged with you as yet? Enough to overrun the existing sweatpants brigade?
If not, you lose.
Yes, you’re correct—the URN system needs broad support to be successful. I’ve had quite a few people speak with me about it, and there’s definitely an overall sentiment that supports changes to the current system, though not everyone agrees on the exact solution. While the "sweatpants brigade" may be vocal, I believe there’s a larger group in favor of change. I’m still gauging whether there’s enough support specifically for the URN system, versus just doing a roll.

In terms of the roll: if you look at the previous thread/poll and consider the impact of Blue’s URN votes, the disparity in favor of "yes" becomes even larger. This gap widens further when you factor in how many "no" votes are coming from members of Good Guys DS kill groups or Castle, who currently have benefitted from the existing system (or lack thereof).

Edit: Also, to be clear, my goal here is to get a feel for how many people haven’t messaged me and are interested in doing it. I think ultimately whatever change we go with cannot interfere with whatever Blue is doing.
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Old 08-16-2024, 02:19 AM
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The forums are definitely not the place for player agreements. Half the people here don't even play. You're not gonna get much from this.

If you want to give URN a shot, post something on the discord, get some like minds together, setup the tool graciously provided to you, then go take the camp and see how it goes.
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Old 08-16-2024, 06:55 AM
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The forums are definitely not the place for player agreements. Half the people here don't even play. You're not gonna get much from this.

If you want to give URN a shot, post something on the discord, get some like minds together, setup the tool graciously provided to you, then go take the camp and see how it goes.
Pretty much this. Since the community is too infested by dweebs who can't get along it's no a matter of getting a consensus on the issue, other than gauging interest or advertising URN there's no point to this topic. People who don't like it never needed to vote, certainly didn't need to post.

Only question now is if someone will actually organize URN on Green and if URN could gain possession and hold the camp.
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Old 08-16-2024, 09:11 AM
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Pretty much this. Since the community is too infested by dweebs who can't get along it's no a matter of getting a consensus on the issue, other than gauging interest or advertising URN there's no point to this topic. People who don't like it never needed to vote, certainly didn't need to post.

Only question now is if someone will actually organize URN on Green and if URN could gain possession and hold the camp.
You’re right, I’m willing to organize it, and the real question is whether it can actually gain possession of the camp.

As for the poll, it’s a due diligence step since CSR asked me to use the forums to post. This is me lining up my ducks to make the case for the camp, especially as we now enter day ~42/45 of Castle’s 24/7 hold. I’m still not certain the conditions are the same as Blue’s, and implementing this is contingent on the confidence that a larger majority will come together to claim it. My instinct tells me that might be unlikely, but if the poll and communications I have show more support for this than the roll (which most are in favor of), then I’ll certainly move forward with it.
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