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Old 10-02-2024, 10:58 AM
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The whole "reset" thing devalues all the efforts folks have put into advancing their characters though.
So don't reset. Just merge it into Blue, which has been the plan of the project the entire time
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Old 10-02-2024, 12:17 PM
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So don't reset. Just merge it into Blue, which has been the plan of the project the entire time
It was the plan of the project for a minute five or six years ago. No reason to ruin Blue just because a vocal minority is bored.
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Old 10-02-2024, 12:43 PM
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It was the plan of the project for a minute five or six years ago. No reason to ruin Blue just because a vocal minority is bored.
Has there been anything explicitly communicating that plan changed?

Don't you reckon many green players are server hoppers (evidenced by them leaving blue for green) so you don’t really need to worry about them rejoining blue, if that is your problem?
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Old 10-02-2024, 01:41 PM
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It was the plan of the project for a minute five or six years ago. No reason to ruin Blue just because a vocal minority is bored.
First, it wasn't for a minute. The staff said it was the plan and then said they would consider not doing it if server pop remained what it was.

Second, ruin Blue? I'm not here arguing that either server is entirely dead, but Blue is definitely desperate for more population. Very difficult to level, even in the largest guilds on the server most people are not leveling lower level alts...the vast majority of PUGs (from guild or just randoms) that I've been in in the last 18 months are in the level 50 range - and I'm talking like 95%. The economy is basically dead except for high level/big ticket items. Green is not quite as bad, but it's not far off that either.

I think you're just nervous about more competition in the raid scene (which will be minimized to some extent by the fact that a lot of Blue raiders are also in the Green raiding guilds, so they'll likely merge to some degree).
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Old 10-02-2024, 05:13 PM
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First, it wasn't for a minute. The staff said it was the plan and then said they would consider not doing it if server pop remained what it was.

Second, ruin Blue? I'm not here arguing that either server is entirely dead, but Blue is definitely desperate for more population. Very difficult to level, even in the largest guilds on the server most people are not leveling lower level alts...the vast majority of PUGs (from guild or just randoms) that I've been in in the last 18 months are in the level 50 range - and I'm talking like 95%. The economy is basically dead except for high level/big ticket items. Green is not quite as bad, but it's not far off that either.

I think you're just nervous about more competition in the raid scene (which will be minimized to some extent by the fact that a lot of Blue raiders are also in the Green raiding guilds, so they'll likely merge to some degree).
Last paragraph hit nail on the head imo. Only reason not to want merge is fear of competition in raid scene /nod

We need a merge even for group content on blue, KC primetime has 1 or 2 groups if lucky...it's depressing. Both servers are suffering population wise, it's not even close to 2000 people anymore even with both servers combined. Will only get worse once quarm releases luclin and more migrate over.
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Old 10-02-2024, 10:26 AM
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That's why you do it on it's own server. If people know it's going to happen ahead of time they can make an informed decision. Sometimes it's about the fun we have along the way and less about having a toon we can stare at on char select for 15 years knowing they've got best in slot.
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Old 10-02-2024, 12:19 PM
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That's why you do it on it's own server. If people know it's going to happen ahead of time they can make an informed decision. Sometimes it's about the fun we have along the way and less about having a toon we can stare at on char select for 15 years knowing they've got best in slot.
So your solution to supposed server health issues is to create a new temporary server a handful of folks would go to knowing that their characters would be deleted from that server after a few years.

Solid idea. Five stars, no notes.
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Old 10-02-2024, 09:59 PM
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So your solution to supposed server health issues is to create a new temporary server a handful of folks would go to knowing that their characters would be deleted from that server after a few years.

Solid idea. Five stars, no notes.
I think having more play style options is a decent idea personally. The one I would enjoy may not be what someone else enjoys. I personally do feel that burn out is possibly the largest issue for player retention that our wonderful little elf sim faces.

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Old 10-02-2024, 10:46 AM
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If we did timeline accurate expansion release there would just be peeps (like me) who would never get any good loot. To me that would replicate my live experience waaay better.

Who knows, im old and have spare time now so maybe i could "neckbeard like its 1999" no wait, 50hrs for a manastone. I dont think so!

Its a museum folks, meander around if you like. Even look at things you had no previous interest in.
I never did the gnoll slayer or solvedi scimitar (what a fucken waste of a WR bag!) quests for example.
Vampire teeth quest while difficult (at level i mean) would yield a fine weapon. 7/21 pre yaks (and lvl 35?) would rock.

Or shit filled sweatpants it and do what we are doing now.
Dealers choice.
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Old 10-02-2024, 11:39 AM
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I like how this conversation goes in circles like green’s recycle is supposed to.
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