Player Agreement: Rule Change at the DS Camp

[fortior]

Originally Posted by berbax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fortior not only did I engage with you ad nauseum, but I described many of the points and arguments, and counters to things you were saying. It's a bit easier to read my responses without tinted sunglasses on, so if you need help finding my talking points throughout this post I can help with that, just let me know!

Also thanking you for your feedback, is a polite way of me saying: I get it dude, you don't want the change.

I can find your talking points fine, they're just not good. Your response to 'you just want the expensive mq' was 'nuh uh'. You didn't reply to the examples of other quest bottlenecks which are FTE/non-roll camps, but you did to some guy listing ring 8/10/shady/angry. Your reply to me posting the thread directly stating that autofire/cheating was an important reason for the scout roll (scout roll being one of the examples you listed yourself) dismissed that because it wasn't proof of the reason for the angry/shady roll.

The admission above that you first went to CSR, then discord, then the forums, before even trying to get anyone on board in the actual game we're playing just shows you have no idea whatsoever about what you're trying to do.

[berbax]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can find your talking points fine, they're just not good. Your response to 'you just want the expensive mq' was 'nuh uh'. You didn't reply to the examples of other quest bottlenecks which are FTE/non-roll camps, but you did to some guy listing ring 8/10/shady/angry. Your reply to me posting the thread directly stating that autofire/cheating was an important reason for the scout roll (scout roll being one of the examples you listed yourself) dismissed that because it wasn't proof of the reason for the angry/shady roll.

The admission above that you first went to CSR, then discord, then the forums, before even trying to get anyone on board in the actual game we're playing just shows you have no idea whatsoever about what you're trying to do.

Thank you for your feedback

[fortior]

The main reason starting a player agreement for DS is way way different from starting one for scout/another clickfest turn-in is that the DS camp always has a winner/owner. There's always someone/a group who's currently guaranteed to win the next spawn, which is not like scout/ring 8/ring 10 etc.

[Penish]

EQ isn't about being fair, get lost woke jokes - get unemployed and win

[Keebz]

URN system from blue +1

[Duik]

Its only a 24/7 camp if you have no fucking friends.
Also, so what if some sweaty neckbeard spends 50hrs straight camping spawnX only to go LD and is later found hanging in his moms basement. Some other disappointment in their life would have driven them insane anyways.
Find some friends, ask to "solo" it with the proviso if you lose it they clean up your mess, and loot it.
You may excel at chantering but i fear your bottleneck will be the making friends part of the solo challenge quest.

[berbax]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its only a 24/7 camp if you have no fucking friends.
Also, so what if some sweaty neckbeard spends 50hrs straight camping spawnX only to go LD and is later found hanging in his moms basement. Some other disappointment in their life would have driven them insane anyways.
Find some friends, ask to "solo" it with the proviso if you lose it they clean up your mess, and loot it.
You may excel at chantering but i fear your bottleneck will be the making friends part of the solo challenge quest.

I appreciate your feedback. As I mentioned in another post, I have already completed the solo challenge. My concern now is to advocate for more equality on the server. The camp is controlled primarily by two guilds, and for the last 32 days, by a third guild, all of which have the resources to hold it 24/7. This isn’t an issue of not having friends; it’s a systemic problem that affects the fairness and accessibility of the camp for the broader player base.

The current system creates an unhealthy environment and monopolizes opportunities, making it difficult for solo players, smaller groups, and frankly the remaining guilds besides the top 3 to participate. Implementing a roll system would address these issues, ensuring a fairer and more balanced experience for all players. Thank you for understanding the broader context and the reasons behind this proposal.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by berbax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I appreciate your feedback. As I mentioned in another post, I have already completed the solo challenge. My concern now is to advocate for more equality on the server. The camp is controlled primarily by two guilds, and for the last 32 days, by a third guild, all of which have the resources to hold it 24/7. This isn’t an issue of not having friends; it’s a systemic problem that affects the fairness and accessibility of the camp for the broader player base.

The current system creates an unhealthy environment and monopolizes opportunities, making it difficult for solo players, smaller groups, and frankly the remaining guilds besides the top 3 to participate. Implementing a roll system would address these issues, ensuring a fairer and more balanced experience for all players. Thank you for understanding the broader context and the reasons behind this proposal.

I will agree with the proposal if it abolishes URN on blue as well

[berbax]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will agree with the proposal if it abolishes URN on blue as well

Toss a "Yes" onto that poll, and hopefully that can be the case

[PatChapp]

If dru was a roll there would be 100+ people logging in 10 seconds before tod.
Less than 1% chance to win the roll,for a 25(ish)% chance of an urn drop
No faction or prerequisite quest requirements. Dru is different than angry.
The trains would be hilarious though.