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Old 07-20-2024, 09:08 AM
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Old 07-20-2024, 10:07 AM
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Who in their fucking mind said ranger for anything? Obviously have only ever played ranger here, or have never played ranger. There is no point where you have played a ranger AND something else where you would suggest a ranger is useful for anything in the game, let alone part of a 3man group. These forums never cease to amaze me when rangers which are inherently (by mechanics and bugs) broken here are ever spoken about.


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I'd make the argument that CLE / SHM / MNK is the best.

The addition of pacify, memblur, cheap rezboxes, stun interrupts, and hitpoints cant be scoffed at, a properly played cleric is something this server mostly hasnt seen. There's like 5 people who aren't inbred on this class.

I would suggest the endurance would be higher on single fights with this over necro given the extra HP and healing efficiency. The general agility of the group with the addition of a charisma buff is fairly solid. Great ability to save the cleric on a fail.

For general levelling the necro would be superior especially from low 50's. From 60 onwards except for crawling with undead charmable I'll take the mnk/cle/sham almost exclusively.
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Old 07-20-2024, 02:22 PM
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Who in their fucking mind said ranger for anything? Obviously have only ever played ranger here, or have never played ranger. There is no point where you have played a ranger AND something else where you would suggest a ranger is useful for anything in the game, let alone part of a 3man group. These forums never cease to amaze me when rangers which are inherently (by mechanics and bugs) broken here are ever spoken about.


Anyway back on topic.
I'd make the argument that CLE / SHM / MNK is the best.

The addition of pacify, memblur, cheap rezboxes, stun interrupts, and hitpoints cant be scoffed at, a properly played cleric is something this server mostly hasnt seen. There's like 5 people who aren't inbred on this class.

I would suggest the endurance would be higher on single fights with this over necro given the extra HP and healing efficiency. The general agility of the group with the addition of a charisma buff is fairly solid. Great ability to save the cleric on a fail.

For general levelling the necro would be superior especially from low 50's. From 60 onwards except for crawling with undead charmable I'll take the mnk/cle/sham almost exclusively.
Ranger wildly acclaimed as worst, yet most fun, melee with lots of gear options, including self-gearing up during levelling. One of the moat [ed: most🥂🍾 typo kept for prosperity] important aspects of a static is maintaining the commitment - ie psychological, and ranger plays into that best.
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Old 07-20-2024, 01:19 PM
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Old 07-20-2024, 08:17 PM
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The reason why Paladin is the best knight is because of his access to cleric spells

Having root / lull alone on a tank class is almost OP if you plan your stats accordingly
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Old 07-20-2024, 11:15 PM
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The reason why Paladin is the best knight is because of his access to cleric spells

Having root / lull alone on a tank class is almost OP if you plan your stats accordingly
I'm not lugging bags of charisma gear around. Go team SK!
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Old 07-21-2024, 11:30 AM
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I'm not lugging bags of charisma gear around. Go team SK!
Without swapping gear on low level blues your crit fail chance is still pretty low. I did Seb ABC at 60 and got maybe 3 crit resists in 2hrs. A full room in seb is more alarming than an extra geonid.
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Old 07-23-2024, 03:33 PM
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Warrior/ monk, shaman and necro imo.

Warrior or monk has great dps / very tanky. Shaman for haste, slow, regen and heal. Necro can help heal both maximizing heal ticks, fd split, interupt spells and mes with extra pet damage
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Old 07-23-2024, 03:53 PM
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Ranger 3rd best tank. Monk shit dps. Paly worse tank than ranger.
I wanna see (the hilarious video of) rimitto and dsm grouping.
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Old 07-24-2024, 02:13 PM
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Ranger 3rd best tank. Monk shit dps. Paly worse tank than ranger.
I wanna see (the hilarious video of) rimitto and dsm grouping.
Ranger is a better tank than Paladin.
Maybe you've never had the honor of healing a ranger, healing a paladin.
I can tell you this from my experiences, a properly geared ranger can hold much better than a properly geared paladin.

I've had several parties where the ranger would have to tank simply because we didn't have a proper warrior or shadowknight, The ranger bleeds, but their HP holds and they can pull shenanigans if things go south.

Paladins NEVER pull shenanigans when things go south, and when they start to bleed, the hemorrhage like an anemic walrus after a shark attack. When paladins start to drop, there's usually very little I can do to save them other than to try a quick heal, followed by a stun, followed by another quick heal, and hope that's enough to get a CH off or some other bigger heal. They drain my mana reserves like it's candy and think they're the best tanks in the world.

Rangers bleed normally. I can warn my party when rangers tank when I get lom, with paladins, it's death all at once.
Warriors and Shadowknights are obviously the best tanks. There's no comparison.

Monks bleed HARD by comparison to the other 3. Bards have a unique * by their name because they have the capability of psuedo-tanking up to, what, 25 mobs at once? They have capabilities that exceed monk and ranger, but they're also unique in their playstyle and how they actually "tank", aka holding aggro.

On that note of holding aggro, paladin has 2 ways to really hold aggro, that of root and blind.

Ranger often has the higher dps, and gets DPS aggro, but they also have root as well. In addition they have a few spells that give higher/lower levels of aggro like flame lick*(supposedly the aggro on this was reduced or removed????) and harmony.

Maybe you've never played the healer role, but there's a clear difference for me when I'm partying with a warrior, a ranger, a monk, or a paladin.

all you guys are doing is insulting now. makes me think you don't actually play the game. haven't heard one testimonial from any of you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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