Help me with stats for my Rogue. Been to long

[Icecometus]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a rogue that knows his class doesnt need defensive skills. besides that dex > str

State your reason for this. Attack is your most important stat and is based on your STR. Procs are a bad idea IMO as a rogue so what is your high dex doing for your DPS?

Edit: ok I see that this was addressed in the thread. HPs become important when you are fighting a boss mob that AoEs, you can't DPS when your dead ;P

[mitic]

Originally Posted by Icecometus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

State your reason for this. Attack is your most important stat and is based on your STR. Procs are a bad idea IMO as a rogue so what is your high dex doing for your DPS?

Edit: ok I see that this was addressed in the thread. HPs become important when you are fighting a boss mob that AoEs, you can't DPS when your dead ;P

resist gear? those 10 extra sta wont help you at all vs boss aoes

[abbadox]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a rogue that knows his class doesnt need defensive skills. besides that dex > str

I had a 65 Rogue on Morell-Thule which merged to E.Marr. I was apart of a great many planar, ToV raids and I never used STA.

It was all STR, DEX, and AGI. WHy put points into STA, when you cant protect it with AGI first? At higher levels and Kunark to soon come out, rogues will have an arsenal of armor to equip to protect the rogue well enough.

You want all Offense baby. Your main priority is to kill! KILL!!!! BACKSTAB!!!

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by abbadox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had a 65 Rogue on Morell-Thule which merged to E.Marr. I was apart of a great many planar, ToV raids and I never used STA.

It was all STR, DEX, and AGI. WHy put points into STA, when you cant protect it with AGI first? At higher levels and Kunark to soon come out, rogues will have an arsenal of armor to equip to protect the rogue well enough.

You want all Offense baby. Your main priority is to kill! KILL!!!! BACKSTAB!!!

Sooo you're saying you can get more than 255 str right now?

[mitic]

Originally Posted by abbadox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You want all Offense baby. Your main priority is to kill! KILL!!!! BACKSTAB!!!

this

[Karorn]

Dex isn't really that useful. All it does it make your combat skills raise faster and your procs go off a little more often. I would max sta at creation and then buy as much +Str gear as possible

[mitic]

Originally Posted by Karorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dex isn't really that useful. All it does it make your combat skills raise faster and your procs go off a little more often. I would max sta at creation and then buy as much +Str gear as possible

dex reduces miss rates too and thats the whole point of dex for rogues

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dex reduces miss rates too and thats the whole point of dex for rogues

I remember seeing that in the Kunark manual, but I have never been shown any actual evidence of this, and it never seemed to be true to me. Do you have any? Have you parsed logs with low and high dex and calc'd missrates? I would be VERY interested to know if this is factual or not. I am *not* saying you're wrong, I'm just asking.

[Karorn]

Unless emu works different from live dex has no effect on hit rate. Hit rate is based on your level compared to your target, your weapon skill, and the AC of your target, nothing more. Agility doesn't do much either. It just adds like 1 ac per 3 agility or somesuch as well as raising defensive skills quicker. Depending on your class, Str, Stamina, Charisma, Int, and Wisdom are the only stats to ever care at all about.

However, I do believe there is some penalty if your dex or agility is below a certain amount (75?) so I guess it matters in that case. Or if you're going crazy with dual Yaks a high dex could be nice, but it would be a secondary stat.

Another interesting fact: AC sometimes completely absorbs a blow, but it just shows up as a miss.

If I'm wrong I'd love to see a dev correct me, but this is what I remember from lurking on the official EQ forums back in the old days.

[mitic]

looks like you are right about missrate not affected by dex.

i still would go str and dex only as a rogue. to get aggro as a rogue means he is doing something wrong. sta is for tanks and pull classes, imo.