Which is more boring? Mage vs. Wiz

[Selene]

Hmm, I'm trying out wizard right now and it's not too bad...i outfitted her with jboots and solist wand. It is nice and peaceful to play. After work it's just nice to do something simple and fun as blasting a mob down with nukes.

I've thought of enc a lot but just seems it requires too much attention. And although I enjoyed charming, I did it a lot on my druid already...after awhile it feels like i'm just watching two NPCs go at it while sitting on my bum, lol

do wizzies have an end game besides raiding? because my 56 mage seems to be good only at being a CoH/Mod rod bot, and I do not enjoy that...and yet I can't go out there and try neat places by myself very well, either

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by Selene [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

do wizzies have an end game besides raiding?

Hang around and port/TL people. Quad Seafuries/Wyverns. If you get really bored, invent random quad challenges for yourself like city guards or some dungeon mobs.

That's about it.

Wizard is the best class for playing EQ while minimizing your time actually playing EQ.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Selene [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

do wizzies have an end game besides raiding?

Not sure I understand the question...raiding is the end game.

There is no more efficient way to gear up characters than being in a good raid guild. DKP earned is far more valuable than anything you could farm yourself, as long as your guild consistently gets targets. I know they all say "no selling raid gear" but let's face it everyone and their grandma has sold a Zlandi Heart / Manna Robe / etc before.

And Wizards are damn good in the raid scene, but you need Porlos Fury and Epic for sure...among a few other clicks to do a proper job.



If you want a class to play outside of raids, make an enchanter. There is no situation where having an enchanter isn't optimal.

[Selene]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure I understand the question...raiding is the end game.

And Wizards are damn good in the raid scene, but you need Porlos Fury and Epic for sure...among a few other clicks to do a proper job.

If you want a class to play outside of raids, make an enchanter. There is no situation where having an enchanter isn't optimal.

To answer your question: as a casual player, between mage and wiz, which class is more suitable in the end game? I used to raid a little bit on a casual guild with my druid (58) and pally (54) on green. My monk (52), mage (56), and wiz (now 34) on blue don't really raid much. My job often leaves me only 2-3 hours max of free time on weekdays so I may see myself as being, at best, a casual raider.

I just want to pick one toon amongst these that would allow me to enjoy the "end game," which I hope has more than just raiding. Because if it's raiding --- then I'll just invest in the wiz and play that class when time permits for raids. But if the end-game might also include things like duoing/trio-ing, or god-forbid grouping in a 6 man group, for adventures and certain interesting camps or quest kills, then maybe mage would be better?

What do you all spend time doing for the most part at the end game? Is it raiding or going on little adventures with a smaller group? Would any mage players care to comment --- is your 60 mage often welcomed for such grouping (and i mean not xp groups)? Thank you all and hope this makes sense...

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Selene [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just want to pick one toon amongst these that would allow me to enjoy the "end game," which I hope has more than just raiding. Because if it's raiding --- then I'll just invest in the wiz and play that class when time permits for raids. But if the end-game might also include things like duoing/trio-ing, or god-forbid grouping in a 6 man group, for adventures and certain interesting camps or quest kills, then maybe mage would be better?

End game is basically raiding, farming high value targets (epics, plat camps, etc), and solo / duo artist stuff. I basically did all this to mega-twink my next alt...leveling was just more fun for me save for the first couple years of raiding when everything felt new / exciting.

Mage and Wiz are terrible outside of raiding, probably the two worst characters (ranger and druid honorable mentions). They just don't bring anything to small groups and they can't solo anything worthwhile.

If you're stuck with Mage and Wiz, I'd raid / gear the Wiz and just find chill spots to solo farm plat on the mage. The mage will be the char you would use in single group content with friends. Find an enc + cleric duo and beg them to take you along, thats your ideal trio.

Chip away at the Wiz epic...and Porlos Fury if your guild does ToV.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Selene [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm, I'm trying out wizard right now and it's not too bad...i outfitted her with jboots and solist wand. It is nice and peaceful to play. After work it's just nice to do something simple and fun as blasting a mob down with nukes.

I've thought of enc a lot but just seems it requires too much attention. And although I enjoyed charming, I did it a lot on my druid already...after awhile it feels like i'm just watching two NPCs go at it while sitting on my bum, lol

do wizzies have an end game besides raiding? because my 56 mage seems to be good only at being a CoH/Mod rod bot, and I do not enjoy that...and yet I can't go out there and try neat places by myself very well, either

mage is only good at DAing, mages that dont quad are useless

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

mage is only good at DAing, mages that dont quad are useless

95% of new raiders aren't going to step up and just start DAing trains around either

they have to be willing to put in some time when targets aren't in window to learn, hopefully with some guidance from a pro

easier to just log on a cleric bot

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

mage is only good at DAing, mages that dont quad are useless

Because no one likes CoTHs, mod rods, and rip sticks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because no one likes CoTHs, mod rods, and rip sticks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

coths are important but any random bot can do it, no one uses rods except vyemm, and everyone has wands. so yea only quads matter.

[PatChapp]

Wizard is a raiding class, or the best port bot.