Vulak Axe vs. Tunare Sword

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn’t matter, nothing a knight tanks people stop and say “hmm mitigation is a concern”.

I put a shield on to look like I’m trying hard.

Optics is everything! A monk gets more invites in bristlesilk (cloth stats but looks like velious silk) than in half decent monk gear (that has good stats but looks like cloth).

Minmax is for sure playing social and psychological angles not playing for a few % of improvement here and there.

[Solist]

It’s very interesting. Like, people who play shadowknights fear kite for maybe 5 hours total of the entire toon. Then somehow parade it as some skill. Like rangers fear kiting in solb for 1-2 levels. Doing so anywhere isn’t a special thing, and nobody with any real amount of gear ever does as it’s the most asinine boring thing you can do short of playing a shaman. Solitaire is more engaging than these shit ways to play eq.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s very interesting. Like, people who play shadowknights fear kite for maybe 5 hours total of the entire toon. Then somehow parade it as some skill. Like rangers fear kiting in solb for 1-2 levels. Doing so anywhere isn’t a special thing, and nobody with any real amount of gear ever does as it’s the most asinine boring thing you can do short of playing a shaman. Solitaire is more engaging than these shit ways to play eq.

Thank you for conceding that fear kiting is not simply something people do in Dreadlands while leveling. Your opinion on how often people fear kite is baseless.

If you don't like fear kiting, that is perfectly fine. Some people like fear kiting, such as myself. It is also more efficient than face tanking generally speaking, so that is nice too!

[Dundrige]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you for conceding that fear kiting is not simply something people do in Dreadlands while leveling. Your opinion on how often people fear kite is baseless.

If you don't like fear kiting, that is perfectly fine. Some people like fear kiting, such as myself. It is also more efficient than face tanking generally speaking, so that is nice too!

Yes. We all have different play styles. That is what makes the world a very fun place.

I think I will go with Tunare sword. The fashion quest is undeniable.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s very interesting. Like, people who play shadowknights fear kite for maybe 5 hours total of the entire toon. Then somehow parade it as some skill. Like rangers fear kiting in solb for 1-2 levels. Doing so anywhere isn’t a special thing, and nobody with any real amount of gear ever does as it’s the most asinine boring thing you can do short of playing a shaman. Solitaire is more engaging than these shit ways to play eq.

Lack of excitement doesn’t justify killing stuff inefficiently.

Even with BiS fear kiting stuff is extremely fast, mana efficient, and results in less damage taken. I understand if you don’t have the right zone/mobs for that and have to stand toe-to-toe but both rangers and SK’s have garage HP recovery systems, ie no jasper powered heal toy.

Outside levels 1-45 with a Fungi or stunt videos at 60 there is a huge range of levels and xp where as annoying as it is, you are better attacking a slowly fleeing mob than taking hits. If you can avoid it that is.

As for who has a Tunare sword at level 46 and can’t fear kite? Who cares? The real play is a Dawncall spear and destroying Karnors. If you have a Tunare sword you probably have one of these too. Grats on having quite a fun alt.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lack of excitement doesn’t justify killing stuff inefficiently.

Even with BiS fear kiting stuff is extremely fast, mana efficient, and results in less damage taken. I understand if you don’t have the right zone/mobs for that and have to stand toe-to-toe but both rangers and SK’s have garage HP recovery systems, ie no jasper powered heal toy.

Outside levels 1-45 with a Fungi or stunt videos at 60 there is a huge range of levels and xp where as annoying as it is, you are better attacking a slowly fleeing mob than taking hits. If you can avoid it that is.

As for who has a Tunare sword at level 46 and can’t fear kite? Who cares? The real play is a Dawncall spear and destroying Karnors. If you have a Tunare sword you probably have one of these too. Grats on having quite a fun alt.

You know what, fear kite is more exciting than simply toetotoeing something you know you can beat by attrition.

When I want to turn on autoattack and drool I play a warrior.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know what, fear kite is more exciting than simply toetotoeing something you know you can beat by attrition.

When I want to turn on autoattack and drool I play a warrior.

Soloing for hundreds of hours off low blues, the fun is getting to the end. Fear kiting is an efficient way to get it done and still is one hell of a trick at 60.

[Pint]

Tuna sword bc it looks way cooler.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The real play is a Dawncall spear and destroying Karnors. If you have a Tunare sword you probably have one of these too. Grats on having quite a fun alt.

As the proud owner of a 60 paladin with this spear I approve of this message.

Spear: 53/46 1.15 ratio procs basically 750 unresistable dmg v undead
Tunare: 50/39 1.28 ratio procs 160dd root
Vulaxe: 51/42 1.21 ratio procs 80 lifetap

Knight melee dps can be quite good with ToV level weaponry but don’t overestimate the differences in white damage from these ratios. It exists, but I can speak from personal experience that undead mobs melt faster than butter in a microwave to the spear. The proc at 6 ticks is a sweet spot. Just long enough to to make each proc have umph and just short enough to not run into the issue of proc stacking (ie back to back or otherwise too soon to get the meat and potatoes out of each proc).

If it’s undead - the spear is gonna beat both of of the others on average.

If I had to personally pick Vulaxe vs Tunare personally?

100 times out of 100 the Vulaxe ignoring the graphic.

1000 times out of 1000 the Vulaxe factoring the graphic. I personally love the look of the thing.

[zati]

have both but I don't play anymore tho.. only 3 practical uses for tunare sword over vulak axe I can remember is:

1. Max mana on solo challenges.. Equip PD robe+Tunare sword that's like 2-3 free drain souls at the start of battle then swap to vulak/ac bp cuz its gonna be a 10 min + fight rofl

2. Keeping aggro off rangers. Their nonstop procs will eventually kill ur mana esp in Crypts seb or anywhere fast paced xp grouping when clarity isn't available. only have this prob with rangers. Root solves everything

3. Fashion, vulak axe looks like a newbie weapon

almost certain weapon AC is not shield ac it's why sks always carry an extra shield even if their main weapon is 2H to take least amount of dmg when running thru mobs, making trains / pulling esp in VP some wurms hit for 1200 dmg max hit. you basically will die in 5 hits (6kdmg) but if you have high AC and shield you get 5 "roll the dice".. imagine getting hit 5x for 600 instead in a short time frame that you might be able to escape its melee range or buy time to hit wort pots/reaper