Iksar Shaman - Solo Challenges?

[Tann]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait so is Iksar Shaman going to solo as well despite not having JBB? I feel like 89 pages in we didn't get a clear answer.

To answer this question first requires studying into the nature of man itself, what it means to be a lizard, 44 pages of nonsense, why does pp smell after eating asparagus, and the remaining pages focusing on the question no one asked: FSI vs regen.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait so is Iksar Shaman going to solo as well despite not having JBB? I feel like 89 pages in we didn't get a clear answer.

As far as I know, nobody claimed Iksar Shamans cannot solo well. Using a JBB is simply superior to root rotting when you don't have access to an Epic. Sadly Iksar's don't have access to JBB. Torpor also significantly reduces the efficacy of racial regen, as you will be at 100% health more often. It is also only improving your Torpor regen by 2%. This is why FSI ends up being better than racial regen from a Min/Max perspective.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait so is Iksar Shaman going to solo as well despite not having JBB? I feel like 89 pages in we didn't get a clear answer.

Yes an iksar shaman will solo well without a JBB. JBB gives a potent leveling advantage for a brief window starting at the level you can click it and falling off sharply by your early 50s when it starts to fall off.

It’s a neat toy to play around with but is not hugely game-changing.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes an iksar shaman will solo well without a JBB. JBB gives a potent leveling advantage for a brief window starting at the level you can click it and falling off sharply by your early 50s when it starts to fall off.

It’s a neat toy to play around with but is not hugely game-changing.

This has been disproven. JBB is superior to root rotting all the way to 60 when you don't have access to Epic. Please ignore Troxx's continued attempts to refuse to admit when he is wrong.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This has been disproven. JBB is superior to root rotting all the way to 60 when you don't have access to Epic. Please ignore Troxx's continued attempts to refuse to admit when he is wrong.

None of this is NOT true:

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes an iksar shaman will solo well without a JBB. JBB gives a potent leveling advantage for a brief window starting at the level you can click it and falling off sharply by your early 50s when it starts to fall off.

The leveling advantage 45-51 is not deniable. It is there, and it is real. The only point of contention is to what degree a JBB may or may not slow down (or break even or whatever) leveling from 52-60. "Superior" or "inferior" aside ... an iksar shaman will be just fucking fine without a JBB. Napkin math considered and personal preferences aside you are looking at a relative efficiency of +/- 2-8% in a best vs worst case scenario.

My impression: a mouth-breather or less-skilled player will find success spamming JBB. A more talented player can pass that break-even point from 52 onward and actually end up ahead without a 10-15k "toy". We can agree to disagree on this point but ...

If the OP wants to be an iksar ... THEY SHOULD BE AN IKSAR. JBB is not worth crying a damn river or filtering through 80 pages of napkin math for. It doesn't make or break anything.

Quit being obtuse.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A more talented player can pass that break-even point from 52 onward and actually end up ahead without a 10-15k "toy". We can agree to disagree on this point but ...

You haven't done anything to show this. The math disagrees thus far too. Please stop making stuff up and providing false information. JBB is superior as a leveling tool all the way to 60 when you don't have Epic, even for a skilled player.

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the OP wants to be an iksar ... THEY SHOULD BE AN IKSAR.

Indeed. Nobody claimed otherwise. This doesn't change facts about JBB.

[Naethyn]

Ya dude jbb is only good for a few levels and regen is forever.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya dude jbb is only good for a few levels and regen is forever.

As is PD robe fashion.

[Troxx]

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[Naethyn]

Wait I thought JBB started at 45?