iksar necro - Page 6

Crede · #1 12-08-2023, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please stop posting your strawman versions of what you think I have said. It continues to show you are just a troll and a liar. That entire list has nothing to do with what I have said in the past. It purposely misses context and twists my words.

Because you can't win arguments with facts and logic, you have been reduced to lying about other people and trolling them. It's honestly very sad. You aren't going to show how knowledgeable you are about Necromancers by simply posting off topic nonsense. Nor does this nonsense discredit anything I have said.

Stick to the topic at hand. What you are doing doesn't help anybody, and just makes people want to avoid talking to you. It also scares people away from the forums. I am not sure why you think an obvious troll like this is making you look good, and me look bad. It is easy to show where you are twisting my words and ignoring context for every sentence in that list. I am not sure why you think the forum post history has disappeared.

EDIT: I see you are also claiming I've said "You don't need hp gear" in the context of Iksar Necromancers. You are talking about this thread. There are only 6 pages in this thread. You won't be able to find me saying you don't need hp gear lol. I even advocated putting starting stats into STA. You are proving you are a liar about what I've said in this very thread, which is very easy to check.

Your “EDIT” was like your 5th edit btw. I watched them all. Stop lying to us with all your stealth edits. Nobody knows what you mean

DeathsSilkyMist · #2 12-08-2023, 10:08 PM

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Your “EDIT” was like your 5th edit btw. I watched them all. Stop lying to us with all your stealth edits. Nobody knows what you mean

You added this line to your nonsensical list via "stealth edit" in your previous post:

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iksar int is easy to max. You don’t need hp gear.

Please show me where I said "Iksar Necromancers don't need HP gear" in this thread. You won't find it. You've exposed your lying nature again lol. You won't be able to find me saying this quote elsewhere on these forums either. Why would people believe that list you made when they can already see you are lying about what I say?

You are just making it so easy to prove you are a liar and a troll. Thanks. There are only 6 pages in this thread. I am not sure why you think you can get away with such a blatant lie.

Please stick to the topic at hand or stop posting. You are only hurting yourself and the forums with this nonsense. You aren't hurting me.

Elizondo · #3 12-08-2023, 10:54 PM

Imagine a 30+ page thread where a shaman tries to convince players that have played necro at the highest level that they should be stacking INT instead of HP/Mana

Oh wait ....

DeathsSilkyMist · #4 12-08-2023, 10:56 PM

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Imagine a 30+ page thread where a shaman tries to convince players that have played necro at the highest level that they should be stacking INT instead of HP/Mana

Oh wait ....

Please show me where I said that. Again you are making it so painfully obvious you are a liar.

Crede · #5 12-08-2023, 11:00 PM

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DSM prob has a list of random points he wants to debate to the death on. Here’s a summary of his nonsense so far:

-There’s “math” to objectively say that ogres are the best shaman race.
-Shamans are a dps class and can out dps mages
-People can’t be mad about players voluntarily awakening the sleeper
-Shaman pets are tanks
-JBB is a min max item for shamans
-Clerics arent needed for 4 man content
-shamans offer more use to enchanters than clerics do
-shamans net the same pp per hour as an enchanter
-you should consider spamming taunt as +1 aggro every 6 seconds is better than nothing while ignoring the fact that there is a superior way to use taunt
-150 str on a monk is good enough
-you are trolling if you are not interested in my opinion
-iksar int is easy to max. You don’t need hp gear.
-you cannot claim ad populum yet my experience as a sk is good enough for this discussion

I’ll continue to monitor and track this so that people are aware of all these theories. I’m sure there’s some more I missed.

Added another one

DeathsSilkyMist · #6 12-08-2023, 11:04 PM

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Added another one

Thank you for continuing to show you are just a troll and a liar. Your list is incorrect, and you've proven you are willing to add new lies to the list that can be disproven by looking at this very thread. I didn't say anywhere that Iksar Necros do not need HP gear.

Duik · #7 12-08-2023, 11:34 PM

So nerr nerr nerr nerr nerr.

Penish · #8 12-09-2023, 12:10 AM

lol'd

Duik · #9 12-09-2023, 02:23 AM

It's a lazydog danglin' sat'd'y afternoon here in AU.
What are the US numbats up to?
Personally I'm equiping my Gauntlets of Ogre Power to assist with my weekly shopping at the Swap-O-Mart in EC (East Canberra).
Fill me in wiff ya own experiences.
NO TROLLS PLS.

Edit bit
Lolocaust!
An attractive young vendor just said "Hello Duik, You look like you could use a root!"
Indeed!

Unuva Edit for post below--
Fuck you Zondo. Thats gold and chuck away names that also rock?
I'll have Hoboreckno so as to not annoy name conventions. You go girl. Zero sarcasm.

Elizondo · #10 12-09-2023, 02:32 AM

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Total cost of this gear = 20k

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https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_...StatsNonRaid01

You can still hit 201 INT with an Iksar in EC gear and free rot drops (+6 Neck is a free rot drop?) while also focusing on HP. A Necro can easily farm the money for this stuff just by killing guards while leveling.

Casters get 2.4 HP per STA, and 5.5 Mana per INT (over 200) at level 60. With 25 STA/5 INT on starting stats, you are looking at +60 HP vs. +138 Mana before you cap your INT with buffs and slightly better gear. After you cap INT you are getting +60 HP instead of +0 Mana.

dumbnecro.jpg

Total cost of THIS gear = 53K

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A Necro can easily farm the money for this stuff

Except you're forgetting what a necro should be farming for while leveling. A Circlet of Shadow.

I've never personally seen a +6 neck auctioned as a 'free rot drop'. Maybe someone else can chime in and help me out here. I didn't even factor in what the potential loot rights cost of that item would be. Let's say 6k + CoS. We're almost at 90K now.

Great advice to a new player looking to try necro. Maybe you should write a guide on the Wiki. It'll be a NYT Bestseller I'm sure.

So what is the practical advice I would give a new player that doesn't have 90k laying around the bank and they want to either try a necro or it's their first character and it's going to be a necro

What gear to buy and where to put points (scraping the bottom of the barrel for as cheap as possible items in EC tunnel), this is probably what I would do. Take it for what you will:

Starting points - 25 INT / 5 Str (Race - Iksar)

I prefer the front load of INT so I can maximize as many slots as possible to HP/Mana. This is what I prefer. Swap the str for sta. Go 50/50. Any combination (within reason) will work just fine. Your mileage may vary.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Green:Poornewnecro

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Total cost of this gear = 3K

So with a minimal investment of 3K I have 150 less HP and 700 less mana. 700 less mana is considerable I'll grant you that. Gratz on being able to cast 1 additional Vexing Mordinia and Splurt at the cost of 56K. With Iksar regen and Lich I'm sure it will matter

Oh you have 5 more Str and sub 40 CHA. My bad.

You could even drop the Tattered Tomb Shroud for a Green Silken Drape

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_...Dirtbrokenecro

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You have now spent less than 3K, gained 10 CHA with a loss of 8HP. Your unbuffed poison and disease resist are at 45 and 55 respectively where the player that spent 53K is sitting at a poison and disease resist of 26

If you wanted to gain additional mana while retaining HP at the sacrifice of some strength for hauling loot you could make these changes and still stay at a total cost of 3K

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Green:Hobonecro

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Any one of those dirt cheap combinations of gear will easily get you to 60 where you will want to be raiding anyways to get the gear that actually matters