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[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was a joke. Unfortunately, the west is alive and well, despite the reactionary tendency to gripe and bloviate about things they don't understand.

At some point the extremely online rightoid became convinced that "many words = smart" because of the Ben Shapiros of this world.

I have yet to see you say or do anything that would convince me I'm interacting with a man of intelligence. Feel free to do so at this time. As in your out of your league more than likely.

Let me give you an example. It's voting day 2024. You and I switch places. We both enter the voting booth and have to vote as if we were each other.

I know exactly how you will vote. I'd get your votes down 100% if I were you.

You would fail miserably at guessing who I vote for.

[Origen]

I guess Toxigen only wants big, macho sweaty dudes around for some crazy reason. I support you in your homoerotic fantasy, bro, I'm an ally.

[Origen]

I am not here to impress people with my supposed intelligence, my self-image isn't that fragile. Y'all just keep playing checkers though.

[Seducio]

Origen, when was the last time you changed your mind?

What was it that the other person said or did that caused you to have a new perspective.

Give an example.

[Origen]

I used to be an agnostic. I am not anymore. The Lord saved someone important to me, via modern technology.

[Seducio]

That's cool. Do you think you can convince other people that are agnostic to change their belief system?

[Toxigen]

Origen when was the last time you ate a steak or did some deadlifts?

[Origen]

Probably not. I acquired faith through trauma, and I've read that it isn't the most enduring form of faith. But I'm not a preacher. That isn't my wheelhouse. Never tried, not terribly interested in trying.

I'd sooner try to convince someone to help out at a homeless shelter than go to a church and pray for the Lord to help the homeless.

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Probably not. I acquired faith through trauma, and I've read that it isn't the most enduring form of faith. But I'm not a preacher. That isn't my wheelhouse. Never tried, not terribly interested in trying.

I'd sooner try to convince someone to help out at a homeless shelter than go to a church and pray for the Lord to help the homeless.

Well that's good humility on trying to change others beliefs as far as religion. I would suggest that trying to change others beliefs with regard to politics is similar.

Changing beliefs in general can happen from within kind of like you did. Or from without and if from without typically force is involved. Nobody likes that except bullying types.

As far as convincing others to help with in-need-people you would rather see get help rather than merely relying on prayer alone, well, that indicates maturity. You have the ability to help those who share a value structure / end goal perhaps better than those who might have a different value structure / end goal. The fact that you have awareness of what was required for your beliefs to change should inform you how much it would take for something like that to happen in others.

[Origen]

When I post the things that I do at the reactionaries on this forum, my intention is not to change the mind of the reactionary. I don't know that I can do that with a post.

Reactionary ideology is built to proof the reactionary against just such a scenario, that's what the knee-jerk reaction to truth that counters a reactionary belief is meant to prevent.

No, the reactionaries will have to come to the reasonable and ask for their forgiveness, someday. And they should likely be forgiven out of Humanist tendencies, if nothing else. Many won't, many will, hopefully enough will before capitalism destroys the Earth's ability to host human life. Maybe the technocrats will come up with an alternative that saves many people, but when I look at dudes like Elon Musk leading that charge I am not filled with hope.