As a christian.

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P.S. I was baptized so when I had my NDE and was being judged (already) it was pretty much all the apostles and Christ and G-d coming to visit me. (in reply to seducio)

It was very weird I can't describe it here exactly they where all there in name and action tho. And a few of my loved ones. PLUS my past self including in name so I could see the alternate paths my life could have taken.

I was given the choice to come back and I did. I'm not sure why I did it was foolish of me, because I could have died then and there.

Seducio you mention the many branching universes


the universe I came back into is way (and i mean clearly mandela effect in big way(s)) different than the one I left when I died to face judgement ---- from an athiestic perspective, that universe existed and is now ded, i believe it now exists without me that that branch now carries on without me and still exists with all the ppl in it, and that I simply jumped branches my conciousness was given that choice and G-d granted me this succor.

QM is a real funky thing if ur into athiesm, butt our choices, feelings, thoughts, words, deeds, imaginations, directly reflect in everything in reality. And I do believe that is by design. Our Ego is what keeps us from G-d. Yet that is by design aswell. (I believe because G-d wishes us to become more like him so that we may GROW and become /be independent AND also GOOD, not to replace him tho, in this way he will raise some of us up into a special position i forget what it is called to look after the NEXT universe, while the rest go to new jeruselem or heaven)

Tho I am flawed and cannot quote the scripture and explain this all in the detail it was explained to me, I take solace in that I can share this message with you and tell you that G-d has a WONDERFUL and GLORIOUS plan for all of us and we are free to live and partake in his plan.

Athiests would just say I have a limited consciousness or altered mental state and reality and my awareness is crumbling, I beg to differ tho. They would probably blame it on head trauma as that would be most likely.

I doubt it tho and I have much more faith in G-d then some head trauma that wouldn't make sense to be so exact in detail and purpose.

As for the golden rule, I do not want to torture or hurt this person so they are being cut lose to torture themselves. Until they can see the light of day and come into G-d's grace again.

Incredibly insightful and honest. I appreciate your perspective.

[magnetaress]

I feel the biggest point we tend to neglect or overlook is that those texts and their origins are one of the biggest gateways towards true enlightenment and salvation. It's very easy to be overly critical because some sect somewhere doesn't measure up to "our standards"... yet at least they are on the path or way to salvation. Where as those that just live for pleasure and comfort and seek only their own immortality or power ... well... they are going to have a hard time finding peace and rest from the pain of ego. No one says you have to live with orthodox jews in a jewish commune, you have Catholicism or Islam as an option.

So it's too easy to overlook the bible and organized religion because of what some group of people make of it. The point is that it does help many of those people avoid drugs and degredation of themselves and their communities. And we need this to change badly in our secular world where people seem to feel free of any genuine consequences, I see secularism as far to nihilistic and if you think you can get away with it because the government can't get you, you are sorely mistaken in the suffering you will endure !!! and and and these ppl and have no tradition or practice in their lives that helps elevate their chakras or whatever. The very nature of communion brings us closer to Christ AND G-d. And this is a good thing. Even if those ppl still go and get themselves herpies, they have a way of coping and understanding themselves and why this happened and what they where doing to each other ! And a better way of facing it as a community than simple GULAG (which I personally favor, probably my worst sin). (a good compromise would be a monastic gulag !)

Who cares if we all agree or not? The point is glory to G-d and G-d's creation. And a better understanding of all of this, since we did chomp forbidden fruits !

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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As in the multiple interpretations of the Constitution is seen as a feature and not a bug.

This - also there aught to be multiple paths to G-d IMO. One authority above them all. And that authority ordained by G-d. I eagerly await the 2cnd coming of Christ and Judgement day for us all. It is not a day to be feared, when we are ready. Remember it's not about when one person is ready it's when G-d's creation and thus, US are ready. Those who have chosen the path of G-d will be resurrected on this day. Judged, and given our choices.

[magnetaress]

^^^

times a change tho and now more and more ppl than ever in the entire human history have access to the wisdom of the bible and christ and 10 commandments and the rights and traditions therein

even if its a minority of the total population of any given demographic

and it bleeds into all other aspects of society when people talk their frame (of reference teehheeee Einstien !!) is changed by their upbringing and exposure to these words (which is a good thing) because the gospel promotes integrity and compassion. Despite what the athiests would say.

EVEN IF Charlten Heston portrays Moses !

Hope this helps !

P.S. the more science I learned and understood the more convinced I am living in G-d's creation and not my own [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[fivehundredyearwinter]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^^^

times a change tho and now more and more ppl than ever in the entire human history have access to the wisdom of the bible and christ and 10 commandments and the rights and traditions therein

even if its a minority of the total population of any given demographic

and it bleeds into all other aspects of society when people talk their frame (of reference teehheeee Einstien !!) is changed by their upbringing and exposure to these words (which is a good thing) because the gospel promotes integrity and compassion. Despite what the athiests would say.

EVEN IF Charlten Heston portrays Moses !

Hope this helps !

P.S. the more science I learned and understood the more convinced I am living in G-d's creation and not my own [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have lived in a very Christian country all my live and I have experienced the words of the Bible, so I can confidently say I am going to hell because I wear pants from the men's section, unfortunately.

Deut.22

[5] The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

I'm sorry but men's pants just have much better pockets and don't make me feel self-conscious about my butt! Why do I got to settle for those tiny pockets that rip so easy if I put more than six quarters in them just because they're in the women's section?

[kloudie]

As a Christian you should follow the philosophy of Jesus and stop judging people. People are human beings and everyone has the right to be respected no matter their beliefs. What matters is your actions and how you treat others. There are plenty of Christians that claim the title, don't follow it and treat it as a get out of hell free card. You have the freedom of religion and the freedom of speech. But you don't have freedom to impose your beliefs on people or the consequences of people's reactions to your fairy tale. Peace.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by kloudie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are human beings and everyone has the right to be respected no matter their beliefs.

What if their beliefs are that you should be abused, neglected, or inconvenienced for the sake of their own simple desires to do whatever they please?

They should be loved and have compassion, they should also not be permitted to abuse other people.

We live in a world sadly that is FULL of evil and it is OUR RESPONSABILITY to protect ourselves and other Christians from this type of evil and abuse.

No one here is arguing that satanists should be tortured. They should be cared for and or excommunicated.

[kloudie]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What if their beliefs are that you should be abused, neglected, or inconvenienced for the sake of their own simple desires to do whatever they please?

They should be loved and have compassion, they should also not be permitted to abuse other people.

We live in a world sadly that is FULL of evil and it is OUR RESPONSABILITY to protect ourselves and other Christians from this type of evil and abuse.

No one here is arguing that satanists should be tortured. They should be cared for and or excommunicated.

Christians are supposed to turn the other cheek. You suck at your own religion.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by kloudie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Christians are supposed to turn the other cheek. You suck at your own religion.

Once Constantinople is retaken, sure

Until then pipe down pleb. The limes must be restored to their proper boundaries

[Patriam1066]

You guys should check out the national cathedral in DC. I had a boner for the US and Jesus at the same time, WOW!

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once Constantinople is retaken, sure

You should probably do a crusade or something. Why hasn't anyone tried this yet.