Question for Shaman Gear

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did not. I simply wrote the math in a different manner. I read what you said. Both of us have come to the same conclusion that Epic is not a straight 2x improvement in terms of leveling speed.

But that is not the issue. The question is what is better:

1. Leveling faster at the cost of farming slower at 60.

2. Leveling slower at the benefit of farming faster at 60.

Torpor is going to give you more money in the time you saved by leveling faster via Epic. Spending 50 hours at Fungi King is probably going to net you more money (unless you are really unlucky) than farming 50 hours at vendor trash mobs root/rotting them with Epic.

Well if your basic argument is "you can't resell the epic to buy Torpor", you're certainly correct about that. But it's also a simple fact that you can earn Torpor money much faster at 60 with an epic than you can earlier on.

If your options are "buy epic at 51 and get nine levels, plus all plat-farming time at 60, with your epic" or "save 50k by not getting the epic, and focus on getting plat as you level up so you can buy Torpor right away", I strongly suspect that the former is a much better idea ... but I have no objective numbers to back that up.

[Crede]

Gotta agree with DSM here. Epic is nice but torpor is way more important. Ideally you should have all the toys. But if you’re strapped for cash don’t bother with epic mq or join a guild and get it. Bear pits are totally viable with jbb and fungi and you might actually enjoy it more not constantly micromanaging 4-5 mobs at a time. Also less risky.

[Troxx]

Lots of DSM posting going on. Is this the newest “thread”?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lots of DSM posting going on. Is this the newest “thread”?

That is up to how much you feel like trolling. It's not up to me. Hopefully you choose not to troll!

[Duik]

I recall in a mage Vs shaman dps thread where DSM said in a group he could out dps a mage by "soloing" 4-6 mobs with epic dots etc.

Definate troll.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I recall in a mage Vs shaman dps thread where DSM said in a group he could out dps a mage by "soloing" 4-6 mobs with epic dots etc.

Definate troll.

Yeah it happened ... all 449 pages of it

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=406923

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah it happened ... all 449 pages of it

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=406923

Please stop posting off topic nonsense. You keep showing people you are a troll by posting that thread. Remember you have hundreds of posts of nothing but gifs. I am not sure why you think it helps you, or hurts me. You can check the DPS numbers of a Shaman vs. a Mage without Epic Pet yourself if you don't believe that a Shaman root/rotting can out DPS a Mage without Epic Pet. It is not my fault you keep taking what I said wildly out of context because you had to resort to trolling to try and win the argument, which you didn't. There is no rule that says you cannot root/rot in a group. Personal preference is irrelevant to the fact that you can employ any tactic you wish if you think it will help, and the group agrees on it.

Do you have anything to say on the topic at hand? Or will you troll further?

[Fireblade7]

Hey, I appreciate everyone's input. I respect a bunch of yalls opinions so I did read everything and I've decided to sell the seahorse belt and buy the JBB. If i have enough at 56 to get epic ill, sell the JBB at that point. But otherwise I will have a nice stack of cash left over to save towards torpor which is a twin goal of mine along with epic. (if i get epic at 56+ ill jsut sell fungi stick and tunic for torpor)

I do have my black fur boots which Naethyn helped me get, so no issue there with the fungi staff.

Thank you everyone!

edit: y'all prolly think im crazy for this but the back and forth between DSM and Loramin (and everyone else that argues) is truly helpful.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Fireblade7 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey, I appreciate everyone's input. I respect a bunch of yalls opinions so I did read everything and I've decided to sell the seahorse belt and buy the JBB. If i have enough at 56 to get epic ill, sell the JBB at that point. But otherwise I will have a nice stack of cash left over to save towards torpor which is a twin goal of mine along with epic. (if i get epic at 56+ ill jsut sell fungi stick and tunic for torpor)

I do have my black fur boots which Naethyn helped me get, so no issue there with the fungi staff.

Thank you everyone!

edit: y'all prolly think im crazy for this but the back and forth between DSM and Loramin (and everyone else that argues) is truly helpful.

Glad to hear we could help! Also happy to hear you got Black Fur Boots. It is awesome that Naethyn helps Shamans out with that.

[loramin]

Good plan.

One last thing: keep in mind you don't have to buy Torpor either. If you can get it by farming golems in OT with a friend, or by going on some raids with a guild, you will be laughing as you watch the other Shaman try and save up 100k.