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Old 08-28-2023, 08:35 PM
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Old 08-28-2023, 09:32 PM
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Do you eat animals?
I don’t care if you do. But it’s annoying hearing how much people love animals and yet eat them. Especially if they’re preaching.

I haven’t eaten an animal in over 18 years because I love animals
…and the idea of eating a corpse is repulsive.
But if you’re anything less than a vegan/vegetarian and you’re soap boxing about your love for animals and the planet, you might wanna self reflect a bit…. Or utilize different argument points that you don’t directly contradict.
You can love animals and eat them. Humanely raised livestock that has spent life in a pasture before being humanely slaughtered is arguably a kinder paradigm than the natural order of things, where the animal is being strangled and ripped apart. Industrialized animal products are immoral no matter how you look at it. You can't even feed meat to 4 billion people without industrializing it, much less 8 billion, btw

I mainly eat seafood. I don't claim to be a perfect person, but I brought this up primarily because you can't argue the population should be 8 billion or above, and also care about the complete massacre of all animal life that is being perpetrated.
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Old 08-28-2023, 09:34 PM
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You can love animals and eat them. Humanely raised livestock that has spent life in a pasture before being humanely slaughtered is arguably a kinder paradigm than the natural order of things, where the animal is being strangled and ripped apart. Industrialized animal products are immoral no matter how you look at it. You can't even feed meat to 4 billion people without industrializing it, much less 8 billion, btw

I mainly eat seafood. I don't claim to be a perfect person, but you can't argue the population should be 8 billion or above, and also care about the complete massacre of all animal life that is being perpetrated.
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Old 08-31-2023, 04:50 AM
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You can love animals and eat them. Humanely raised livestock that has spent life in a pasture before being humanely slaughtered is arguably a kinder paradigm than the natural order of things, where the animal is being strangled and ripped apart. Industrialized animal products are immoral no matter how you look at it. You can't even feed meat to 4 billion people without industrializing it, much less 8 billion, btw

I mainly eat seafood. I don't claim to be a perfect person, but I brought this up primarily because you can't argue the population should be 8 billion or above, and also care about the complete massacre of all animal life that is being perpetrated.
I mean i love trees, flowers and plants. Doesn’t mean I won’t eat them.
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Old 08-31-2023, 05:11 PM
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You can love animals and eat them. Humanely raised livestock that has spent life in a pasture before being humanely slaughtered is arguably a kinder paradigm than the natural order of things, where the animal is being strangled and ripped apart. Industrialized animal products are immoral no matter how you look at it. You can't even feed meat to 4 billion people without industrializing it, much less 8 billion, btw

I mainly eat seafood. I don't claim to be a perfect person, but I brought this up primarily because you can't argue the population should be 8 billion or above, and also care about the complete massacre of all animal life that is being perpetrated.
idk if i'd argue that you love animals then. it seems to me you love the planet and that is your driving motivation.

like I said I don't care if you do or don't eat animals or if you love them or dont. I just found it to be a bit of a hypocrisy to call out others for not caring about animals while you munch on your 'humanely slaughtered' burger. if you're gonna PREACH at least practice what you do.
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Old 08-31-2023, 05:54 PM
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idk if i'd argue that you love animals then. it seems to me you love the planet and that is your driving motivation.

like I said I don't care if you do or don't eat animals or if you love them or dont. I just found it to be a bit of a hypocrisy to call out others for not caring about animals while you munch on your 'humanely slaughtered' burger. if you're gonna PREACH at least practice what you do.
Most cows wouldn't get to live at all if it wasn't for us bloodmouths planning to eventually devour them.
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Old 08-28-2023, 07:31 PM
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Everything happens in cycles we are natures great big C02 exhale, once we are done and transition into big bug eyed grey aliens that probably have tech that loves C02 things will return to the way they where before, this is on a few million years timescale. In 100 million years we'll barely be noticed anymore.

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some folks have alot of trouble comprehending concepts of massive scale. nothing in their lives can remotely compare to global type things. I may have an advantage working for a water utility, which itself is a massive concept, yet alot smaller than anything global. I can see the effort required to put running water in every man-made structure, which in simple terms is basically a miracle that it functions as well as it does.

people might hear in the news about a city having some nasty chemical in their water, and think to themself of thats a tragedy, i'm sitting here thinking, "it's a miracle that this doesn't happen more often"

take that understood concept of running water in millions of buildings and apply that to any other resource, and you can pretty easily start to understand that this planet-sized machine humans have built to maintain their existence, has trillions of moving parts which all must function, cannot last forever, and is a miracle it has survived just decades.

young people aren't having kids, that means the elderly will rapidly out number the young. Kids are a huge economic driver, young people with no kids spend less, meaning that they also earn less. People who need more money, usually end up earning more of it. If they aren't earning money, then they aren't paying taxes, they aren't investing, they aren't spending. We go back to the start with population growth being economic growth, population shrink means economic shrink.

Less money going into the pool, means less spent to maintain the infrastructure of any resource. Less maintence means a less functional infrastructure.

this isn't a jab at capitalism, it's just a reality-based assessment by a qualified analyst. (I do believe that anything required for survival should be provided by the government, and also available in the private sector for those who choose, but that's another topic)
oh no this is a great post AAA+ quality comin from u trexller couldn't say it better myself it is a MIRACLE

Musk is totally hoping we make more ppl to find more innovative ways of clanking the machine back toghether so to speak helper nanobots for the body of civilization, butt old ppl aren't going to do that unless u brainbot them.

I've already addressed the pathos and folly of immortality in numerious other threds tho [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] + Jibartik did a much better job of it last year !
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Old 08-28-2023, 08:33 PM
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Old 08-28-2023, 08:51 PM
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Utility providers are the best example of natural monopolies. Some states already impose monopolistic control of their grids.
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Old 08-28-2023, 09:05 PM
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Utility providers are the best example of natural monopolies. Some states already impose monopolistic control of their grids.
it's impossible to avoid when there is only a single product for sale on a market, this is why they are "public utilities" - no private entity can be allowed to control them. This is 'necessary socialism' - or 'socialism for national security', lol that's how they should sell socialism to the conservatives.

will add, even the states with single supplier utilities have alot of regulation of what can or can't be done, how or why etc.

so it's still a company or multiple all working underneath the gov't authority, in theory anyway.

they take their 'profits' that they were allowed to earn in providing the utility, then they don't reinvest into their means of production and conveyance and Maui catches fire.

or the water lines under roads collapse, I know of a few places in my area where there are STILL wooden water lines that were installed 100+ years ago

nobody wants to pay to replace them, not even the customers who claim to be concerned with the quality of their water
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