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[Homesteaded]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Globopetro fanboi. Smoking cigarettes is fine, they been improved since the 50's.
Nailed it on the electric car thing though fOoloo. Good work.

You need more faith in the destructive powers of humanity. We can fuck things.
Thorium nuclear is the future.

I won’t be surprised if we find out in 20 years that smoking isn’t even that bad for us. My buddies and I pick up smoking cigs for our week long camping trip into the woods. Smoking is a great past time and the globo homo crowd ruined it, as they are inclined to do. Ruin everything good and decent.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I won’t be surprised if we find out in 20 years that smoking isn’t even that bad for us. My buddies and I pick up smoking cigs for our week long camping trip into the woods. Smoking is a great past time and the globo homo crowd ruined it, as they are inclined to do. Ruin everything good and decent.

I mean, they're gonna help you meet God sooner. Win win

It's not super terrible here and there, the hard part is it's super addictive.

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

idk if i'd argue that you love animals then. it seems to me you love the planet and that is your driving motivation.

like I said I don't care if you do or don't eat animals or if you love them or dont. I just found it to be a bit of a hypocrisy to call out others for not caring about animals while you munch on your 'humanely slaughtered' burger. if you're gonna PREACH at least practice what you do.

You may disagree that one can love animals and eat them, but either way it's beside the issue. 8 billion humans and their livestock, agriculture, and industry are resulting in the mass extermination of plant and animal life on a scale not seen since a huge chunk of space rock slammed into Chicxulub and killed almost everything. If you love animals, you should care about that, regardless of your other qualities.

Furthermore, if American fundies aren't going to practice what they preach, why the fuck should I.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

8 billion humans and their livestock, agriculture, and industry are resulting in the mass extermination of plant and animal life on a scale not seen since a huge chunk of space rock slammed into Chicxulub and killed almost everything.

This is not even remotely true. Millions of species have arisen and gone extinct in the years between the chicxulub impact and homo sapiens.

Human activity has resulted not only in billions of humans existing who otherwise wouldn't have been able to, but also the artificial preservation of species like the stupid panda who would have naturally gone extinct long ago. We can barely even keep them alive in captivity.

Humans are part of nature. Climate alarmists hold yet another conspicuously religious view that humans are somehow special and different than the rest of nature. Guess who else thinks that? Conservative christians. Uh oh!

[Ripp]

1975 - Global Cooling is going to kill us! We need more livestock and poop!

2023 - Global Warming is going to kill us! We need to kill all the livestock!

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[Lune]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is not even remotely true. Millions of species have arisen and gone extinct in the years between the chicxulub impact and homo sapiens.

Human activity has resulted not only in billions of humans existing who otherwise wouldn't have been able to, but also the artificial preservation of species like the stupid panda who would have naturally gone extinct long ago. We can barely even keep them alive in captivity.

Humans are part of nature. Climate alarmists hold yet another conspicuously religious view that humans are somehow special and different than the rest of nature. Guess who else thinks that? Conservative christians. Uh oh!

Read about the Holocene Extinction. The current rate of extinction far surpasses the normal background rate.

There is no reason we need more than 8 billion humans. It benefits nobody, not even humans. Just less space and resources for everyone. Nevermind that ecosystem collapse has implications for our happiness, survival, and prosperity.

Saying humans are a part of nature, while technically true, glosses over the important truth that unlike every other species, we are self-aware and capable of knowing better. We can choose to manage our own population and not breed like a bunch of fucking bacteria.

[Ooloo]

Elon musk is right on this: More human minds existing = greater likelihood one of them will cure cancer or climate change or any other great task we collectively face.

Any other argument is just eugenics on some level

[Lune]

Nobody needs to go, but less people need to be born.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody needs to go, but less people need to be born.

Total bullshit. Why? Explain why.

[Trexller]

no, Lune is correct

to say, "oh everyone but you" is childish, and reflects great immaturity, this is not a statement of individuals but the population as a whole, there is no favoritism, this is indifference.

anyone who doesn't recognize the overpopulation issue, is not mentally addressing it in scale to the planet. Elon Musk fails to understand, not by lack of ability but personal refusal. might be like the only thing I disagree with him on. Musk is also one of the only legit capitalists (meaning, you earn money by simply having alot of money), and population growth is directly commensurate with economic growth.

a guy like Musk looks at the world and sees populations dropping globally, to him that means less income.

if you allow yourself to address population concerns on the scale at which they occur, a real problem arises that is not any more difficult to understand than arithmetic. Every living being requires X amount of land to produce their food, their energy, and whatever else they want from the planet. Land space is finite, regardless of how efficiently that you use it.

Forget fossil fuels, imagine 8 billion people burning wood for their primary source of heat and mechanical energy. All trees would have been gone decades ago, which would have led to ecosystem collapse.

There are going to be many different estimates of what is the X amount of land required for each human, and everyone will lose the point splitting hairs over the X value, at which point they all forgot what started the debate, which ironically was about there being too many people on earth.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no, Lune is correct

to say, "oh everyone but you" is childish, and reflects great immaturity, this is not a statement of individuals but the population as a whole, there is no favoritism, this is indifference.

anyone who doesn't recognize the overpopulation issue, is not mentally addressing it in scale to the planet. Elon Musk fails to understand, not by lack of ability but personal refusal. might be like the only thing I disagree with him on. Musk is also one of the only legit capitalists (meaning, you earn money by simply having alot of money), and population growth is directly commensurate with economic growth.

a guy like Musk looks at the world and sees populations dropping globally, to him that means less income.

if you allow yourself to address population concerns on the scale at which they occur, a real problem arises that is not any more difficult to understand than arithmetic. Every living being requires X amount of land to produce their food, their energy, and whatever else they want from the planet. Land space is finite, regardless of how efficiently that you use it.

Forget fossil fuels, imagine 8 billion people burning wood for their primary source of heat and mechanical energy. All trees would have been gone decades ago, which would have led to ecosystem collapse.

There are going to be many different estimates of what is the X amount of land required for each human, and everyone will lose the point splitting hairs over the X value, at which point they all forgot what started the debate, which ironically was about there being too many people on earth.

Malthusians r ghey