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[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the trick is to shadowban a bunch of ppl together into an echo chamber that reinforces their psychoseses

This is basically person centred counselling. It's affirmative, validating, minimises challenge to a person's view and encourages them to find solutions to their own issues .

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is basically person centred counselling. It's affirmative, validating, minimises challenge to a person's view and encourages them to find solutions to their own issues .

there's a few issues i wont get into where this could be demonstrably bad (harm/self harm/addiction). That is how u get downtown detroit and LA

sad ppl need room to fail and fail miserably in an environment away from happy ppl (prison is great for this) so is concentration camps that are slightly less mountains of bodies than the 1938 ones and more like the Uighur ones.

Anyways....

I would like to be affirmed too v much but then u would have a military 10 commandments dictatorship and money would be illegal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there's a few issues i wont get into where this could be demonstrably bad (harm/self harm/addiction). That is how u get downtown detroit and LA

sad ppl need room to fail and fail miserably in an environment away from happy ppl (prison is great for this) so is concentration camps that are slightly less mountains of bodies than the 1938 ones and more like the Uighur ones.

Anyways....

I would like to be affirmed too v much but then u would have a military 10 commandments dictatorship and money would be illegal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To my knowledge therapists won’t validate things hard drug use or crime though

They won’t judge it and be like “you shouldn’t do that”, but they also won’t say something validating like “wow you are such a good thief”

Normally the ones I see who have that dropped on them just give a neutral response of like “oh, ok”

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is basically person centred counselling. It's affirmative, validating, minimises challenge to a person's view and encourages them to find solutions to their own issues .

Ya, the “no judgement” part has definitely been hard over the years considering some of the stuff I heard. But I always tell myself it’s not the place for a counselor to judge, leave that to the priests or their family or the law or whatever

But we did have a client try to fight a (terrible, long since fired) co-worker when he repeated back the client’s reported charge of “child abuse” with a very judgmental tone. Not a good idea to do to someone who had been in prison longer than out of it

Also if a counselor proposes solutions then it’s just the counselor solving problems and it’s disempowering. Also reinforces the person to just ask counselors for a solution for every problem they encounter, a bad idea

[Kirdan]

Apparently someone has me on ignore, weird.

[Jimjam]

Ngl i was critiquing carl rodgers, not you!

[Ooloo]

Shadowbanning is the moral equivalent of a sucker punch- only cowards do it, often consciously, because they're worried they can't win on merit

It's different than outright banning because there's an extra weasle factor involved

[long.liam]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shadowbanning is the moral equivalent of a sucker punch- only cowards do it, often consciously, because they're worried they can't win on merit

It's different than outright banning because there's an extra weasle factor involved

Twitter is privately owned platform and so is this Server. There is no morality involved in banning. Nilbog and Rogean could "Shadowban" the whole server and their would be nothing unethical about it. They own it, they can do whatever the hell they want with it.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by long.liam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Twitter is privately owned platform and so is this Server. There is no morality involved in banning. Nilbog and Rogean could "Shadowban" the whole server and their would be nothing unethical about it. They own it, they can do whatever the hell they want with it.

Agree, as long as it’s mentioned somewhere that it is something they do

I hadn’t checked, but pretty sure Twitter did not have shadowbanning mentioned in their TOS

If they had, some nerd who actually reads those kinds of things would have discovered it and started asking questions like “how often is this happening, how long does it last?”

Instead people had to find out by trial and error after wasting various amounts of their time. The older I get the more I realize that stealing someone’s time by tricking them is something precious to lose

[long.liam]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agree, as long as it’s mentioned somewhere that it is something they do

I hadn’t checked, but pretty sure Twitter did not have shadowbanning mentioned in their TOS

If they had, some nerd who actually reads those kinds of things would have discovered it and started asking questions like “how often is this happening, how long does it last?”

Instead people had to find out by trial and error after wasting various amounts of their time. The older I get the more I realize that stealing someone’s time by tricking them is something precious to lose

I don't know. I tend take the view that no one owes me anything and I owe nothing to anyone. I have a very anti-entitlement view of the world. If I do good things for anyone, it's because I want to do it. Not because of some stupid sense of duty or something. Twitter, P1999, even Live EQ owes you nothing. Not even explanation for why you were banned. If I want something from someone, I think I need to earn it. Either through hard work or by showing deference towards the people have the stuff I want/