Spells: Bard Aggro

[FatMice]

Thanks again Ennewi for finding all of this seemingly conclusive evidence that bard agro was one of the classes strong suites from classic to velious. my hope is that the nerd gets adjusted. pras

[Ennewi]

https://dbsanfte.github.io/eq-archiv...tml/25522.html

Message ID: 25522
Date: Thu Oct 25 16:41:44 BST 2001
Author: Daniel Sniderman
Subject: From my Guild's board Forum


Actually Slyde, I spoke to Lawrence Poe at the Fan Faire and his reason for
not having any of the new bard songs or 'disciplines' in the SPDAT and
related files was something along the lines of,

"Bard songs are harder to code and generally take alot more internal
balancing before they are released to test. I wish I had something to put in
the SPDAT so you gyuys could look at it, but right now I don't. Sorry."

Actually, that's VERY close to what he said in regards t new bard
songs/disciplines. He's a super nice guy. Bit soft spoken though.

Additionally, I spoke with him about the problems with Selos and Drums of
the Beast. Oddly enough, he was unaware of the wrap-around problem with our
speed and wrote it down.

Overall, great guy. He took alot of notes too.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020210...leid=685705173

02/05/2002 05:20 PM CST
Quoth the Caster, "Nevermore!"
The Verant employee who impressed us the most at the Minneapolis FanFaire was, without question, Lawrence Poe. This guy was cool, smart, and obviously knew his job incredibly well. He could rattle off spell facts and answer player questions like it was second nature to him. He has been a great asset to caster classes in EverQuest.

The problem is, he's not EverQuest's spell guru anymore.

No, he hasn't left Verant. But according to Graffe's Wizard Compilation, he has moved on to another project:

It turns out that he will still be working for Verant on an unannounced project doing gameplay systems and mechanics. He seems to be really happy and excited. (before the e-mails start: yes, I asked him about the unannounced project and he didn't share any info.)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawrencepoe

Lawrence Poe

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Game Designer
Sony Online Entertainment
2000 - 2003

Which explains the eventual decision to...

https://web.archive.org/web/20050119...ID=46680#47516

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Re: BoC.....-does- it work for us?
Posted: Jun 17 04 5:15 PM
The devs have said that they did not code specific effects as bard effects for purposes of hate generation. ALL effects cast by a bard, song, proc, right-click or whatever

have reduced agro simply because of the class we are -- this was the easy way to code it and it is no surprise Sony took that way out. I think this came up about two or

three Fan Faires ago when a dev admitted they took the easy way out on bard agro coding.
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Yurtrus Dywrnach
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Posts: 310
(4/11/01 1:38 am)
Reply Re: Bard equip question...
Why do you want a proc? Hell my bard gets enough agro just singing and whacking the mob at 20th lvl.

if you really feel the need for a proc might I suggest a pair of Obsidian shards? 6/23 with a 30 point proc which begins at 18th level I believe. Shards are rare but go for 250-300pp and can be camped by a group of people in there 20's good exp in sola.

Yurt

HadrienLNS
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Posts: 8
(4/23/01 8:48 pm)
Reply Ouch, Proc BAD! <sweeping arm motion>
I swore off procing weapons as a bard a LONG time ago. It's like adding a new garish color to your already luminous "Beat the Hell out of ME" sign. You are gonna find that monsters like you enough as is. If yer weapon is gonna proc something, make it a DoT or a buff. PGTs are pretty cool, since your Dex is likely to be high and your hitpoints low. 300dmg absorption at your level rocks. I've almost thought about buying one myself sometimes.

Bards don't hit things very well. Too many bards don't realize this. I honestly can't imagine why so many bards insist on it. If you played a Cleric, you'd have a big ass mace, but how many of them do you see bashing heads in? Remember, just because you CAN use something, doesn't mean you SHOULD. Instead of blowing 5K on a Sionachies Partisan(or whatever), save up and buy some better armor, or a magical instrument.

It actually amazes me that Bard weapons still sell for as much as they do. I guess they all go to twinkers who will shelve their bards in 2 months (so THAT'S where all the SS BPs are, lol).

https://web.archive.org/web/20020826...art=41&stop=60

Aaoogaa
Registered User
(7/29/02 5:19:30 pm)
Reply Re: RE:
I have grouped with bards and I have never seen a better class when played correctly. Karnors WL room. 58 level bard was main tank, crowd control, healer, and puller. It was almost comical at the ease the bard had control of the room.

I have seen bards kiting 20 mobs effectivly.

Everyone wants a bard in an AE group. If ya don't your sorta silly.

Its true you only need one or two bards on a raid, but then how many shamen do you need on a raid?

I have played a bard and enjoyed my time as one but the class is just not for me. I know many bards out there that LOVE their class and its abilities. To many people play bards bad or without combining their abilities (this includes me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ). I think I have only met 2 people that actually play the class to its full potential.
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