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Old 08-30-2023, 11:43 PM
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Why not keep a public list of players who are perma-banned for cheating or whatever reason

so that the community can name and shame
And their forum handles and alts.
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Old 08-30-2023, 11:44 PM
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And their forum handles and alts.
Right

if people know they are gonna be publicly named for their bad actions, they are gonna be less likely to cheat

and if people know who they are, they aren't going to be able to just re-roll a fresh reputation
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Old 08-31-2023, 12:34 AM
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Tried the client. The mouselook was so jittery/laggy and uneven that I had to quit out after trying a few possible solutions. Gave me some decent eyestrain. Hope it's fixed somehow as this is absolutely a deal breaker.
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Old 08-31-2023, 12:42 AM
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Tried the client. The mouselook was so jittery/laggy and uneven that I had to quit out after trying a few possible solutions. Gave me some decent eyestrain. Hope it's fixed somehow as this is absolutely a deal breaker.
I haven't installed the Quarm patch file yet.

I think you're saying it's not improved at all or enough over the TAKP F9 x2 zoomout?
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Old 08-31-2023, 02:47 PM
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I haven't installed the Quarm patch file yet.

I think you're saying it's not improved at all or enough over the TAKP F9 x2 zoomout?
I didn't notice a big difference, but I won't be playing at all on takp, because this Quarm idea is what I have been waiting for with classic to PoP. This excitement abated immediately as soon as I logged in. The game play experience is so much better in P99 in regards to smoothness of mouse look and lack of latency. When you move the mouse to look around there is a few hundred ms of lag to the look response.

Scrolling out and playing from third person is also broken for me as I can't really get full control of the camera and it moves in very unusual ways.

I was very sad to discover this, and I hope there is a way to fix it. Drastically different from P99.
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Old 08-31-2023, 02:52 PM
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I didn't notice a big difference, but I won't be playing at all on takp, because this Quarm idea is what I have been waiting for with classic to PoP. This excitement abated immediately as soon as I logged in. The game play experience is so much better in P99 in regards to smoothness of mouse look and lack of latency. When you move the mouse to look around there is a few hundred ms of lag to the look response.

Scrolling out and playing from third person is also broken for me as I can't really get full control of the camera and it moves in very unusual ways.

I was very sad to discover this, and I hope there is a way to fix it. Drastically different from P99.
Back when I first started on P99 in 2011 I had very similar issues, which were fixed by using WinEQ2.0 to load the game. Is there really no similar solution such as WinEQ2.0 or configuring hardware settings to smooth out TAKP client?
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Old 09-02-2023, 09:57 AM
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The game play experience is so much better in P99 in regards to smoothness of mouse look and lack of latency. When you move the mouse to look around there is a few hundred ms of lag to the look response.
The client definitely feels a bit jank compared to what people are used to from more modern clients like P99's.

For me it got a lot more manageable after using it for a few hours. Personally I just use first person more often. I also rebound the F9 camera select so I could more easily see around my character while medding.

What's not being mentioned however are the client improvements over P99. The lighting is better and more accurate. The sound/music is better. Elements like name tags are more classic.

Secrets has also said that he's still working on the camera but it might not be improved before launch. He's open sourced the DLL and other people are encouraged to make improvements to it in the meantime.

Regarding cheating, I find it a bit strange that this is being discussed so much here. Every EQ server you've played on has had cheating, including P99. It's unfortunately just been part of the game since the very beginning. But it seems that Secrets will be just as effective at detecting and removing cheaters as P99 is, so I'm not sure why there's so much skepticism here.

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Yeah this is probably my biggest concern with the server. 2.25 years for Luclin release is rough. We've had 14 years of Vanilla->Velious content on P99.

Another concern I have is with the database. P99 was successful because a lot of work was put into the database before the server launched which made the server feel special compared to other projects. Quarm feels mostly like a PEQ clone and there's already been a lot of low pop PEQ clones. I'd really like to see a lot more people playing on the server and submitting database reports to the Discord.
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Old 09-02-2023, 11:01 AM
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Regarding cheating, I find it a bit strange that this is being discussed so much here. Every EQ server you've played on has had cheating, including P99.
P99 has anti-cheat code built-in; Quarm doesn't. That was the reasons for the discussion.
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Old 08-31-2023, 12:47 AM
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The best anti cheat will be to reduce the useful info that is sent to the client. Secrets arvises this is already implemented. This could be leveraged further by sending false info that only showeq users would pick up: e.g send location updates for fake cloaked quillmanes that don’t actually appear in game.
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Old 08-31-2023, 02:36 AM
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Re: the client.

p1999 client = Titanium + mods
PQ client = TAKP client + mods = EQMac client updated + mods

This should temper everyone's expectations regarding initial Project Quarm population. For many the PQ client will be a downgrade from the experience of what p99 currently offers although it would be an upgrade from what live was at the time classic released.

P99 Titanium client is really something special. Folks love it despite its non-classicness. Devs done a great job with it modifying it to 'feel right' and in era. Possibly one of p1999's best open secret weapons. You won't find code for p99's client on github like you can with TAKP.
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